[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Bear is NOT funny at all - He is a BULLYING YOB. It does not matter what 'funny voice' he affects - He is a BULLYING YOB, plain and simple.

If I want to watch ignorant, uncouth, bullies such as Bear and Bloor, I do NOT need to turn on my TV set, I can go into the City centre on any weekend at night or on any Bank Holiday during the daytime.

I am getting old, and have had just 5 fights in the past 4 years or so, and EVERY single time, it was not only with a Stephen Bear or Lewis Bloor, but also NOT at my instigation.

I was standing in quite a long cinema queue with my wife and two young nephews of 10 and 12 years old, and had been queuing for about 15 minutes, when Bear, Bloor and two other clones walked STRAIGHT to the front of the queue and pushed in.

The queue was a mixed one, with parents with young children, older people, and young couples, and one slightly built dad with a young girl of about 8 years old - who was at the front of the queue and had been directly jostled by Bear and Bloor and co - tried to protest, but got a load of abuse back from them for his troubles, and understandably, clammed up.

That was just before I shouted to them to get to the back of the queue.

I will not go into details, but they DID eventually go to the BACK of the queue.

I was in a busy town centre pub, again with my wife, and was waiting to be served at a bar. There were 3 other people - a young couple, and a young girl, who were waiting to be served at the bar before me, as well as others being served.

The barman serving customers at 'our' section of the bar was Stephen Bear.

Along with the three others who were waiting, I waited for over 10 minutes as gangs of other Stephen Bears kept pushing into the growing numbers of people joining the 'queue of customers wanting to be served, and WITHOUT FAIL, 'Bear the Barman' - who so obviously KNEW them, served them and ignored both my call and that of the three who were before me. The cheeky twat even looked at us as we tried to tell him that we were next then ignored us anyway.

After no joy trying to attract the attention of the other nearest barman - who DID seem to be serving customers in his section in order - I tried Bear again, but no joy, as he just looked, seemed to become annoyed and snapped at me to "wait", then continued laughing and chatting to his 'mates' as he served them.

This ended up with my grabbing him, dragging him half across the bar and telling him in my best 'French' what fate awaited him if he did not start serving quiet customers in the order of waiting time.

When I let him go, he summoned the bouncers, but was out of luck as the two that came knew me, and knew that I did not cause trouble, so after listening to what happened, they told him that he better start serving according to waiting time then left.

Bear came to me - all nice and sheepish now - apologised and asked me what drinks I wanted. He seemed genuinely shocked when I pointed to the young couple and the other girl - who were STILL waiting - and I said; "Those two first, then that girl, THEN me".

Stephen Bear is NOT entertaining in the slightest. He is nothing more than an egotistical, ignorant, selfish, BULLY - one of a rapidly growing number of Stephen Bears who are infesting society, and ruining the quality of life of other people by IMPOSING his WILL upon them without any regard for them, or their rights, or their wishes.

THEY are the ones who feel it is BENEATH them to queue with we ORDINARY citizens - whether it be outside a cinema, at a bar waiting to be served, or even at a shop cash out - THEY are the ones who, in NUMBERS -- NEVER alone -- walk straight to the front of the queue and push in.

THEY are the ones, who walk THROUGH people BARGING them aside, in crowded pubs, clubs, shops, or on city sidewalks. NOT for them, the careful negotiating AROUND elderly people, parents with young children, or even mere slow walkers, as we ORDINARY citizens do.

And we do NOT even have to SEE these ignorant twats to suffer from their crass bullying behaviour.

I HEAR them every week whether it is while I am sitting peacefully in my garden on a warm sunny Sunday afternoon or in my room late at night quietly reading, or listening to music, or watching TV.

THEY are the ones who spend long periods, REVVING UP their stationary 'souped up' motorcycles, and cars which have had the bafflers removed so that the sound is even more invasive and deafening.

THEY are the ones who let off FIREWORKS from 9pm to well into the early hours EVERY single weekend all year round now, with NO REGARD for other people, their sleeping babies and young children, or their terrified pet dogs.

THEY are the ones who SCREAM and SHOUT at the top of their drunken voices at 3 and 4am in the morning as they walk home through sleeping Housing Estates, with NO regard for other people.

THEY are also the ones who throw their empty beer bottles, cans and take-way wrappers over other people's garden fences, and the ones who piss up against the gable walls of other people's houses on their way home from the nightclubs and pubs.

Some of you on here, may try to tell me that you find Bear and Bloor's behaviour 'funny', and if that is what 'floats your boat', fair enough - it is a free country - but do NOT try to convince me that they are NOT bullies, because I have WITNESSED how these two ignorant twats, AND their vacuous molls, Marnie and Chloe, are imposing their antisocial, guttersnipe and aggressive behaviour upon the quieter, more decent and thoughtful members of the house, and I RECOGNISE how that is impairing the quality of their time in the house, stifling their rights to enjoy themselves, and intimidating them, and I CALL that BULLYING.
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Bit OTT fgs ,lighten up and enjoy the show

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Bit OTT fgs ,lighten up and enjoy the show

OTT - in whose universe. How can I ENJOY what I personally consider the glorification of loutish behaviour, the deliberate allowance of bullying of the other HM's, and the descent into YOB TV by what was once one of my favourite programmes?

If you enjoy this freak show of mindless yobs, then knock yourself out Chuff.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Bit OTT fgs ,lighten up and enjoy the show

As you are so keen on reminding people, Kirk is allowed his opinion. You're allowed to drag it for filth but if someone said to you what you just said to Kirk you'd probably post endlessly about how you're under attack for having an opinion so try to keep that in mind in future.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

As you are so keen on reminding people, Kirk is allowed his opinion. You're allowed to drag it for filth but if someone said to you what you just said to Kirk you'd probably post endlessly about how you're under attack for having an opinion so try to keep that in mind in future.

Dezzy For Prime Minister. Thank you Dezzy.

[Daniel.]

WOW Kirk im shook by that tea

[Northern Monkey]

But all these random strangers who you've encountered are just that.They are all different people.There is nothing to suggest that Bear goes into cinemas and pushes in front of everyone or lets fireworks off every weekend or revs up vehicle engines unless there are newspaper articles to suggest so.
I also refuse to believe that one annoying little twerp has managed to bully a full house full of grown adults.I mean he's not scary,He's not Mike Tyson.He's a skinny young lad with a big mouth.The people who entered the CBB house have put themselves in the situation where it was very likely they were going to encounter people who annoy them.He's not singled anyone out and relentlessly bullied them or spat in anyones food.He's just played a few pranks.

[fitz2k2]

I am not reading all that.there is no bullies in the house.nobody fears one another.fear is like someone gonna attack.bear wont hit anyone unless you hit hm back.that house is full of pussies.actually the biggest ones ever in cbb history,

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by fitz2k2

I am not reading all that.there is no bullies in the house.nobody fears one another.fear is like someone gonna attack.bear wont hit anyone unless you hit hm back.that house is full of pussies.actually the biggest ones ever in cbb history,

Your first short sentence actually invalidates you from responding, because how can you have anything worthwhile to say in any response when you have NOT read the subject matter which you are now responding to.

By the way, this is a democratic forum - which is NOT run by Stephen Bear - so you are not being forced to read "all that". BYE.

[waylander1973]

Originally Posted by fitz2k2

I am not reading all that.there is no bullies in the house.nobody fears one another.fear is like someone gonna attack.bear wont hit anyone unless you hit hm back.that house is full of pussies.actually the biggest ones ever in cbb history,

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=306845

How this then, Lewis openly admits 'The Sqaud' are purposely antagonising/offending/bullying others. - TODAY JAMES IS THE TARGET.

Then, james has to put up them touching him even though he asked them to back off, no big brother help - they let it happen, so he pour coffee on bear to get them away.

Sorry that is bullying.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by waylander1973

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=306845

How this then, Lewis openly admits 'The Sqaud' are purposely antagonising/offending/bullying others. - TODAY JAMES IS THE TARGET.

Then, james has to put up them touching him even though he asked them to back off, no big brother help - they let it happen, so he pour coffee on bear to get them away.

Sorry that is bullying.

BRILLIANT Waylander.

[shaz20]

Kirk, nice post can we petition BB to put you in the house? please

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by ScottyT

The irony is they think their behaviour is 'socially acceptable' and 'normal' - yes, maybe on the beaches of Marbella, in Ibiza and Magaluf with the rest of the dreggs of society but not in a normal civilised world. Their lives are going down the drain when they hit their 30's and they are no longer relevant. Their only desirable skill will be being capable of sending out incoherent dumb tweets.

i'm pretty happy to report that most younger people i know are nothing like these oafs; having said that, there is a definite thread of this sort of behaviour being seen as acceptable, and a lot of it's to do with people seeing this awful behaviour rewarded by celebhood - tv exposure and money.

aubrey doesn't get away with it, either, as her gobbing in his food and drink seemed nothing out of the ordinary to her until she realised she was being pulled for that behaviour.

Originally Posted by rusticgal

He is a bully. He intimidates with the intention of controlling people. This is why he could not deal with the nominations for him and threw his toys out of the Pram...because he didn't have the control he thought he had. He then went on to threaten them with worse behaviour. He now doesn't like the fact that the housemates are ignoring him...because he has no control. It's going to wind him up if they keep it up...

It's the only way to deal with bullies like Bear....don't bite and give them what they want...just IGNORE the dickhead and watch him bite.

exactly... take away his control, watch him crumble.

Originally Posted by the truth

When will they ever understand one basic rule, ignore attention seekers and they soon run out of oxygen. This is literally all the housemates (other than the odious lewis, the selfish marnie and the brainless chloe) need to do. Let the moronic mob alone with their own juvenile thoughts. James whale is the man who must lead the revolt and he started well last night. As a group demand BB action. As a group totally blank them 100% of the time. BUT with a moronic bully like bear you have to pick your battles carefully. Ive noticed ricki has come in at the wrong time when bear is on a task or something, BAD move. Wait until he does something totally moronic like smash the house again or destroy food again. Bang wipe the floor with him , report to BB, then walk away and talk about anything other than this moron. There is something in the Bible about handling the devil, simply by ignoring him.

that was such a shame - ricky stepped up and spoke up, but because it was a task bear can claim a sort of immunity.

Originally Posted by shaz20

Kirk, nice post can we petition BB to put you in the house? please

now that i'd like to see

[Cherie]

This ended up with my grabbing him, dragging him half across the bar and telling him in my best 'French' what fate awaited him if he did not start serving quiet customers in the order of waiting time.


isn't that assault Kirk, whatever happened to having a word with the bar manager and as for the cinema queue, if my OH left me in a queue to go outside to have a fight before we settled down to Finding Dory I'd divorce him

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Cherie

This ended up with my grabbing him, dragging him half across the bar and telling him in my best 'French' what fate awaited him if he did not start serving quiet customers in the order of waiting time.


isn't that assault Kirk, whatever happened to having a word with the bar manager and as for the cinema queue, if my OH left me in a queue to go outside to have a fight before we settled down to Finding Dory I'd divorce him

Yes, it is assault Cherie, but I did not go into detail of all what was said and I did not hurt him. I do not regret it and would do exactly the same again.

As for the cinema queue; I told them to leave the father with the young kid alone and that they should get in the queue like the rest of us. It was the big steroid Jack who started the abuse and threats by calling me an 'old Chink' or words to that effect, and telling me what he would do if I didn't shut the feck up, or words to that effect.

My wife KNEW what was about to happen when I slipped off my watch and gave it to her.

HE - no - THEY (two of them) came up to me.

It really was, fight in front of all the little kids in the queue and expose them to violence - something I would NEVER do - get beat up, or oblige big mouth, and go around the corner with him.

I also allowed him to throw the first punch at me.

I know that I could have kept my mouth shut and just let them push in, but I cannot. Even now, I would still say something.

I once got my cheekbone broke though jumping in to save a young Pakistani lad who was being beaten up by three yobs after a football game, and I would do exactly the same there as well. (It turned out the 'lad' was not so young and was a junior doctor).

Sorry if this make me a yob in some people's eyes, but I can only be truthful.

[Amy Jade]

Kirk posts like thsee are why you are a tibb fave

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Kirk posts like thsee are why you are a tibb fave

Thank you A.J. - as long as some of you love me, that's all that really matters.

[ThriceShy]

There has been only ONE incident of bullying in this series and that was when spit was placed in Bear's food and drink and people knew about it and kept it secret.

I can't think of a single other incident.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

There has been only ONE incident of bullying in this series and that was when spit was placed in Bear's food and drink and people knew about it and kept it secret.

I can't think of a single other incident.

Seems folks are restless, they can no longer throw the race card or the homophobic card as Frankie may as well not even be in there,so they have gone for the bully card ......so predictable Im waiting for someone,anyone to point out ONE single bullying thing Bear has done

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Seems folks are restless, they can no longer throw the race card or the homophobic card as Frankie may as well not even be in there,so they have gone for the bully card ......so predictable Im waiting for someone,anyone to point out ONE single bullying thing Bear has done

In fairness I can't, Lewis and Saira are the culprits there

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

In fairness I can't, Lewis and Saira are the culprits there

Saira definitely was the worst towards Chloe ,remind me what Lewis has done as Ive been decorating all day and my mind is in a muddle

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Saira definitely was the worst towards Chloe ,remind me what Lewis has done as Ive been decorating all day and my mind is in a muddle

Lewis making Heavy beg for half a glass of wine, and generally being nasty in the bedroom last night

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Seems folks are restless, they can no longer throw the race card or the homophobic card as Frankie may as well not even be in there,so they have gone for the bully card ......so predictable Im waiting for someone,anyone to point out ONE single bullying thing Bear has done

I have set this challenge before and nobody has ever come up with an answer.

Bear has bullied nobody. I don't think even the housemates are claiming that he is a bully. He just annoys them.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I have set this challenge before and nobody has ever come up with an answer.

Bear has bullied nobody. I don't think even the housemates are claiming that he is a bully. He just annoys them.

I wonder why that is ?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I have set this challenge before and nobody has ever come up with an answer.

Bear has bullied nobody. I don't think even the housemates are claiming that he is a bully. He just annoys them.

Your ridiculous challenge has been answered by many honest members - including myself in the Opening Post - it is just that you choose to ignore the responses because they do not dovetail with your set views.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Your ridiculous challenge has been answered by many honest members - including myself in the Opening Post - it is just that you choose to ignore the responses because they do not dovetail with your set views.

Have you answered my question and told me exactly who and how Bear has bullied someone ? not your idea of who, just the facts please