[Beso]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Id like to see what evidence is brought forward

Bbc news did pick up on that last night on the ten o clock..something about tm seeing fresh evidence.

Like you suspect though, there is nothing like a cabinet reshuffle to grab the headlines.

[Beso]

It is a strange one though cause obviously if a stranger walks up and puts an arm round you your going to worry as a woman and check your wallet as a man.

But i see my work colleagues as mates, we socialise and laugh and joke together. Maybe im lucky, but if i put my arm round one of the girls they would know i was reasuring them.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by parmnion

It is a strange one though cause obviously if a stranger walks up and puts an arm round you your going to worry as a woman and check your wallet as a man.

But i see my work colleagues as mates, we socialise and laugh and joke together. Maybe im lucky, but if i put my arm round one of the girls they would know i was reasuring them.

Yes,that is how I feel about this, where do we draw a line ? I mean things said on here in jest sometimes could be offensive to some ?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes,that is how I feel about this, where do we draw a line ? I mean things said on here in jest sometimes could be offensive to some ?

We draw the line with common sense surely? Everyone knows who their friends are... Don't they?? Parm knows it would be fine with people he works with because he knows them and knows that they have a friendly relationship as well as a working one.

Its not like "Oh it should just be fine for everyone to touch everyone else because no one knows who their friends are".

I mean... And I'm assuming here... But I doubt that if a new girl started and got upset on her first day, Parm would run over and give her a big ol' hug . I hope not, anyway.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

We draw the line with common sense surely? Everyone knows who their friends are... Don't they?? Parm knows it would be fine with people he works with because he knows them and knows that they have a friendly relationship as well as a working one.

Its not like "Oh it should just be fine for everyone to touch everyone else because no one knows who their friends are".

I mean... And I'm assuming here... But I doubt that if a new girl started and got upset on her first day, Parm would run over and give her a big ol' hug . I hope not, anyway.

Depends on what upset her, if she had just had a call about a family death then i probably would. Any other reason then no...

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes,that is how I feel about this, where do we draw a line ? I mean things said on here in jest sometimes could be offensive to some ?

I wish i hadnt lost my job as a male stripper, imagine the compensation

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I mean things said on here in jest sometimes could be offensive to some ?

And doesn't my PM inbox KNOW IT!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its all about charm and looks. If an attractive charming colleague touches your leg or puts arm around its ok , if the creepy guy with oily hair does it its not

[waterhog]

being discussed now 1040am wrightstuff ch5 ?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by waterhog

being discussed now 1040am wrightstuff ch5 ?

Just started watching....looks like women turning on women.

[Kizzy]

I am shocked to be honest, I would have thought the abuses of position wouldn't have been downplayed to this extent, this if anything is a snapshot of the double standard within 'society'.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I am shocked to be honest, I would have thought the abuses of position wouldn't have been downplayed to this extent, this if anything is a snapshot of the double standard within 'society'.

I know what you mean. It's like that thread on here of the New York attack this week where 8 people were murdered, not even 2 full pages of comments. Compare that to the thread earlier in the year with the Charlottesville one where there was 1 victim, that thread went on for pages with anger.

[Cherie]

I don't think it is being downplayed, there is just very little information to go on Micheal Fallon stood down for touching someone knee and lewd comment apparently? I find that hard to believe when someone who raped a female activist may still be in Westminster and the persons or persons who told her not to report it are probably also there

[Cherie]

Sir Michael Fallon was forced to quit after being accused of making lewd comments to Andrea Leadsom, it has been reported,*
The shamed former Defence Secretary resigned from his post on Wednesday, admitting that his behaviour had “fallen short” in the past.*
The Sun reports he told Leader of the House of Commons Leadsom, who complained of cold hands: “I know where you can put them to warm them up.”*




I know it the Sun, and probably false but if that is the level we are talking here and if a woman can't bat off that kind of comment with ease in any situation I give up

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Alf

I know what you mean. It's like that thread on here of the New York attack this week where 8 people were murdered, not even 2 full pages of comments. Compare that to the thread earlier in the year with the Charlottesville one where there was 1 victim, that thread went on for pages with anger.

Spot on Alf. Notice how there were no responses to that obvious anomaly.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Spot on Alf. Notice how there were no responses to that obvious anomaly.

Probably because everyone actually agrees ISIS are bad?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Probably because everyone actually agrees ISIS are bad?

Terror related threads get fewer and fewer responses because there's nothing to say about it that hasn't been said 20 times already in other threads. The very sad reality is that it's just become very common... And we all know each other's thoughts on it (everyone agrees terrorism is awful, various groups disagree on how to tackle it). There's just nothing to debate or discuss.

[Oliver_W]

That sort of thing being classed as anything beyond "stupid comments" trivializes actual harassment, and makes me doubt the seriousness of non-detailed claims.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

That sort of thing being classed as anything beyond "stupid comments" trivializes actual harassment, and makes me doubt the seriousness of non-detailed claims.

Yes it does, I really can't understand why the Micheal Fallon's case is taking precedence over Bex Bailey if it really was just about knee touching and inappropriate but ultimately not particularly intimidating suggestiveness

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yes it does, I really can't understand why the Micheal Fallon's case is taking precedence over Bex Bailey if it really was just about knee touching and inappropriate but ultimately not particularly intimidating suggestiveness

If I was given to conspiracies, I'd say it's because one involves the left, and one the right.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

If I was given to conspiracies, I'd say it's because one involves the left, and one the right.

Except that they both involve the center?

[Cherie]

I have just been informed that has has to step down from it's job as a smilie on TiBB due to overt suggestiveness

anyone who has used this smilie in any context needs to be very afraid

Marsh

[user104658]

I heard whispers that there have been historic sexual harassment allegations made against LT for some PMs he sent 3 or 4 years ago .

It's not fair, he's changed I tells ya, it was just a different time!

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I heard whispers that there have been historic sexual harassment allegations made against LT for some PMs he sent 3 or 4 years ago .

It's not fair, he's changed I tells ya, it was just a different time!

15 years ago, hardly the dark ages in fact the 80s was when PC became popular, the journalist invovled told him she would punch him in the face if he did it again and was amused, the Andrea Ledsom incident was 2 years ago, I would have expected her to put the smutty old goat in his place, she doesn't come across as a wilting violet

[Kizzy]

Seeing as this has gone all right v left for some reason I'll put this out there why is it only Corbyn supporting MPs implicated?