[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

And don't forget "Why did they wait till now though?" never hear that if a man comes forward (and rightly so too but why don't women get the same courtesy?)

Ahh had added that probably while you were quoting. I need to think out posts fully before putting them tbh as I always add on a load afterwards

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

The 'oh, here we go again, a woman wanting cash/fame' type response annoys me too

Don’t people say the same thing about Micheal Jackson’s Male accusers

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Elliot

Don’t people say the same thing about Micheal Jackson’s Male accusers

Alot do believe them though, I think Michael Jackson is a bit of an exception though because of who he is and his mega fans would defend him no matter what i think

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Elliot

Don’t people say the same thing about Micheal Jackson’s Male accusers

I think thats the only time its been done, and thats basically as MJ is like a god to his fans. But yeah, they got the 'woman' treatment too and its shocking tbh.

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Alot do believe them though, I think Michael Jackson is a bit of an exception though because of who he is and his mega fans would defend him no matter what i think

Yeah, its different..female accusers constantly get that treatment, where male ones, it seems it depends if the accused has megafans ready to defend anything.

Either way, the leap to 'they are lying' or..saying that because a case was not succesful that means the person lied is just..crap.

[Livia]

The trouble for me with famous people being accused is that they are named, straight away, even before charges are brought... or dropped. But the accuser is entitled to lifelong anonymity. There has been a move in recent years where some women have waived their right to anonymity, and that has really changed the public's perception of them. I'm not saying that every victim must stand up and be named, but if the naming process was more equal it would help, I think.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

The trouble for me with famous people being accused is that they are named, straight away, even before charges are brought... or dropped. But the accuser is entitled to lifelong anonymity. There has been a move in recent years where some women have waived their right to anonymity, and that has really changed the public's perception of them. I'm not saying that every victim must stand up and be named, but if the naming process was more equal it would help, I think.

That's a problem with your laws around cases like these for sure, here the accused can't be named unless they're found guilty and even then only if the victim agrees (i think)

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's a problem with your laws around cases like these for sure, here the accused can't be named unless they're found guilty and even then only if the victim agrees (i think)

That seems a much better way.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

That seems a much better way.

It is, better for the victim too I think, especially when the guy is famous because it's the women who get all the abuse anyway

[Beso]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

cleared of all charges



LBC midday news

Thanks for the update LT, I've been stressing for years wether I should or shouldn't burn the jls merchandise I have..luckily I didn't as it may be worth money in the future

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It is, better for the victim too I think, especially when the guy is famous because it's the women who get all the abuse anyway

Well, it immediately removes the scope for assumption that the victim is doing it for money/fame.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Well, it immediately removes the scope for assumption that the victim is doing it for money/fame.

exactly yeah