[Clootie Dumpling]

Calm down. I was offering an opinion, which might explain some of his incongruous behaviour, not "mocking" him.

[lewys]

I can understand why people think he's a good housemate, but what i don't understand is people justifying his behaviour. I thought Helen was good, made bb15 somewhat bearable and saved it from being a snoozefest but i recognise how much of a vile person she was and that as an actual human being i dislike her, the way Lewis has treated Ana, Kay, Sian, Isabella, Akeem to name a few is horrible, the constant poking at Akeem, calling Sian the c word and a dinner lady just because she cooks food for the house, going off and screaming at Isabella when she was just trying to diffuse a situation it's disguesten !!

People need to stop allowing all of his actions because of his good looks and him being a 'good housemate' (which imo he's not, he's draining the series with the moaning and has gotten rid of so many big characters, the argument that this series would be boring without him at this point may be true, but that's only because he has gotten rid of all the other interesting ones who would cause conflict)

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by lewys

I can understand why people think he's a good housemate, but what i don't understand is people justifying his behaviour. I thought Helen was good and made bb15 somewhat bearable and saved it from being a snoozefest but i recognise how much of a vile person she was and that as an actual human being i dislike her, the way Lewis has treated Ana, Kay, Sian, Isabella, Akeem to name a few is horrible, the constant poking at Akeem, calling Sian the c word and a dinner lady just because she cooks food for the house, going off and screaming at Isabella when she was just trying to diffuse a situation it's disguesten !!

People need to stop allowing all of his actions because of his good looks and him being a 'good housemate' (which imo he's not, he's draining the series with the moaning and has gotten rid of so many big characters, the argument that this series would be boring without him at this point may be true, but that's only because he has gotten rid of all the other interesting ones who would cause conflict)

...excellent post Lewys.....the thing is for me is that we haven’t fully seen the characters of others because of the oppression he creates in the house and the negativity he creates in the house...I do think it’s fine that allowances are made for him because he has so many issues and insecurities so isn’t a ‘bad person’ as such...but those same allowances should be made for other housemates also with any negative behaviour they display... because every single person in the house will have issues and insecurities...and ‘reasons’...Lewis make his felt so much more so gains all of the understanding, while others are judged and dismissed in a very simple way...

[Ammi]

...(..he feels he has depth...)...but there are only two surfaces he judges on in terms of how people relate to him and accept him...either unconditional love and adoration or snake and reptile...any criticism or challenging of him goes straight into the snake and reptile section.....he condemns those who have nominated him with the flip of his finger but never acknowledges those who haven’t nominated him...who still have some energy and understanding left to feel positivity for him regardless of his behaviour...

[joeysteele]

By the same reasoning we who like him don't understand the acidic hate towards him too.

I really like him, he can be trusted, he comes across loyal to those who need him to be.
Such as to Cameron on his need in the house.

He is volatile but for me in an entertaining way, he can be full of fun and really down.
He chooses to vent off more in the diary room, so knows himself enough to take himself away at times from, annoying, to him, situations.
That is what the diary room is for too.

He has flaws and he hinself is honest enough to admit he has, that's admirable.

He is also really complex and that makes all he does and says interesting to hear and watch.
To sit and have a deep discussion with him, over many issues, is something I'd like to have with him.

All of that adds up to him bringing loads to the house as a housemate.
In that he is and can be, annoying, frustrating, hilarious, really endearing and most of the time entertaining.

That makes for a great housemate, which he is in my view.
Far from ruining this series, he is the one who has made it.
It likely would have been at best tedious run of the mill series without him.
Something this series cannot, in my view be termed as.
Mainly thanks to all his input to it.

[Cherie]

Good housemate for few weeks his stich has been boring for a while now , I’m living with snakes while being the biggest one himself, he is frustrating to watch at this stage

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

By the same reasoning we who like him don't understand the acidic hate towards him too.

I really like him, he can be trusted, he comes across loyal to those who need him to be.
Such as to Cameron on his need in the house.

He is volatile but for me in an entertaining way, he can be full of fun and really down.
He chooses to vent off more in the diary room, so knows himself enough to take himself away at times from, annoying, to him, situations.
That is what the diary room is for too.

He has flaws and he hinself is honest enough to admit he has, that's admirable.

He is also really complex and that makes all he does and says interesting to hear and watch.
To sit and have a deep discussion with him, over many issues, is something I'd like to have with him.

All of that adds up to him bringing loads to the house as a housemate.
In that he is and can be, annoying, frustrating, hilarious, really endearing and most of the time entertaining.

That makes for a great housemate, which he is in my view.
Far from ruining this series, he is the one who has made it.
It likely would have been at best tedious run of the mill series without him.
Something this series cannot, in my view be termed as.
Mainly thanks to all his input to it.

I had no favourites in this BB for a while,i wasn't really watching it much,but it was the hate on here that made me curious as to see who this 'monster' was so I started watching and saw Lewis unfold in many layers, a lot of what he says is said in jest,just some take it the wrong way,he's had fun in there, bickerings in there,meltdowns in the DR,and the thing about him only fronting women is ridiculous, he aired his opinions to Lewis G,Akeem, Hussain,also,so now I really like him as a housemate as I do Cameron,they are like a double act,He has said himself he is trying to calm himself down,he is doing a great job,really good housemate.IMO

[AnnieK]

I can totally get why people like him as a housemate. He is fascinating to watch. I find him narcissistic, pessimistic with terrible inter personal skills but I think he has some complex deep set issues.

He would drain me as a real person but he has been the divisive character this season. His friendship with Cam is intriguing too. At times I think its built on good intentions and at other times I feel its built on the cams almost hero worship.

Complex housemate....not great human imo

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Honestly, he is all but ruining this season for me. He is feckin awful, in so many ways... Smarmy, manipulative, whiny... just a general ****.

Why are people supporting him? I just dont get it.

Why does anyone have the love for anyone at all, most likely because they find common ground with the good side and the understanding of a character, I love him and hope he wins. Not one of us is perfect and we love our friends for their imperfections as well. On the other hand, is there a perfect HM in there? No, it just wouldnt do for us all to be the same. It is good that we can disagree because everyone has a point of view.

[Kazanne]

And here we all are talking about Lewis AGAIN, this is why he has been a good housemate,nobody hardly talks about anyone else.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

And here we all are talking about Lewis AGAIN, this is why he has been a good housemate,nobody hardly talks about anyone else.

We'll be able to once he goes and others are shown.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by reece(:

We'll be able to once he goes and others are shown.

Exactly, we want some spin the bottle.

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by Alf

Exactly, we want some spin the bottle.

What false hilarity at stupidity?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by reece(:

We'll be able to once he goes and others are shown.

They'll have to be quick it finishes soon.

[girlfighter24]

I don't get why so many people like him I used to like him but now he is my least favourite.

I do wonder if he fat and ugly whether he would have as many fans as he does now.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by girlfighter24

I do wonder if he fat and ugly whether he would have as many fans as he does now.

Indeed.

You know he would be long gone.

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by girlfighter24

I don't get why so many people like him I used to like him but now he is my least favourite.

I do wonder if he fat and ugly whether he would have as many fans as he does now.

Not much point in just voting for looks, it is quality which counts. I think many would agree, tbh I dont really know if he is that good looking, he doesnt float my boat.

[vesavius]

Neurotic self obssessed whining is not 'depth'.

Half formed/ half understood Buzzfeed/ Tumblr regurgitations are not 'depth'.

People calling this guy 'deep' are making me laff. He is just a narcissistic poser.

You would have to be puddle shallow to think he is deep, honestly.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Neurotic self obssessed whining is not 'depth'.

Half formed/ half understood Buzzfeed/ Tumblr regurgitations are not 'depth'.

People calling this guy 'deep' are making me laff. He is just a narcissistic poser.

You would have to be puddle shallow to think he is deep, honestly.

Now do the other housemates and explain their depth to us.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Alf

Now do the other housemates and explain their depth to us.

Did I say that they had any?

But, no one is making that claim about them so it clearly does not need defending.

People do say Lewis is 'deep' though, which is just laughable. He's a complete moron that has just got the 'progressive' pose down from reading one too many Tumblr posts.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Did I say that they had any?

But, no one is making that claim about them so it clearly does not need defending.

People do say Lewis is 'deep' though, which is just laughable. He's a complete moron that has just got the 'progressive' pose down from reading one too many Tumblr posts.

Fair do's

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Did I say that they had any?

But, no one is making that claim about them so it clearly does not need defending.

People do say Lewis is 'deep' though, which is just laughable. He's a complete moron that has just got the 'progressive' pose down from reading one too many Tumblr posts.

Yes depth my ass

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Did I say that they had any?

But, no one is making that claim about them so it clearly does not need defending.

People do say Lewis is 'deep' though, which is just laughable. He's a complete moron that has just got the 'progressive' pose down from reading one too many Tumblr posts.

Indeed

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Neurotic self obssessed whining is not 'depth'.

Half formed/ half understood Buzzfeed/ Tumblr regurgitations are not 'depth'.

People calling this guy 'deep' are making me laff. He is just a narcissistic poser.

You would have to be puddle shallow to think he is deep, honestly.

We all see different things in different way, we really have to see them on the outside to really put labels on anyone. For me I have listened to one or two conversations which show that he has knowledge of things some may not even entertain. Things which many have studied and understand the meaning.....If he wins he will have the last "laff" if he goes then we will be able to see him on BOTS. It is the total aftermath which I will be interested in. Hey it isnt raining today so there arent any puddles here......

[Underscore]

You talk about depth with such anger and passion yet supported Ellie from last year, one of the most depthless and empty housemates on that season