[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Watch the video..he's being played by the press.

He won an award for being hard done by...an award awarded by our former European Danish cousins.

I'm unlikely to watch the speech and come away thinking 'poor Tommy. He's seems ok with being used when it suits him.

Watched another five minute, up to about 9 minutes now but struggling with it TBH. I cant take the man seriously knowing his past and that he thinks he is an actual victim. He aint, he's been willing when it suited him.

[GiRTh]

The vid @ about 15-17. Robinson has his back to three of them punches a guy in front of him and the three behind him, not one gets anything near a clean shot. One kind of brushes his shoulder then walks off. Another gets a little push in and that it. Final one kicks him on the ground but very curiously, lets him get up.

Or none of those thugs were a match for hard nut Tommy. Good on yer Tommy lad!!!!!!

[GiRTh]

I'll watch it bit by bit, five minutes at a time is all I can last before turning the idiot off.

[Kizzy]

So we are to believe that all 'Tommys' media is tampered with? And fair play to him in some instances that seems to be the case.
He has in essence exposed that media manipulation of facts, lies and bias exists, that said can anyone hand on heart say Corbyn isn't a victim of that too?

In relation to the grooming gangs I have to say I am on his side on this issue... YES! The mad socialist loving Corbyn supporter me.
The reason for this is the inaction to tackle the issue over time in the name of community cohesion. That was and is wrong...my opinion on that will never change. Whoever decided on that course of action, or inaction was wrong on every level.

That said, I don't feel that he is the innocent and injured party here, as being so vocal about the Koran and focusing all his energies on the Muslims of the UK he does come across if not as racist as prejudiced.

He has been elevated by nationalists as a figure that is almost saint like, and his speeches are devoured by a section of the UK that can only be described as racist thugs.
This cannot be a coincidence, he appeals to them not the rational moderate voices who are also against the same things he is...why?

Giving that speech he comes across as rational and forthright, is a far cry from the tracksuit wearing rabble rouser surrounded by very angry looking bald white men.

His speech was good, do I feel his anger is justified? In part yes, do I agree with him or his views no.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So we are to believe that all 'Tommys' media is tampered with? And fair play to him in some instances that seems to be the case.
He has in essence exposed that media manipulation of facts, lies and bias exists, that said can anyone hand on heart say Corbyn isn't a victim of that too?

In relation to the grooming gangs I have to say I am on his side on this issue... YES! The mad socialist loving Corbyn supporter me.
The reason for this is the inaction to tackle the issue over time in the name of community cohesion. That was and is wrong...my opinion on that will never change. Whoever decided on that course of action, or inaction was wrong on every level.

That said, I don't feel that he is the innocent and injured party here, as being so vocal about the Koran and focusing all his energies on the Muslims of the UK he does come across if not as racist as prejudiced.

He has been elevated by nationalists as a figure that is almost saint like, and his speeches are devoured by a section of the UK that can only be described as racist thugs.
This cannot be a coincidence, he appeals to them not the rational moderate voices who are also against the same things he is...why?

Giving that speech he comes across as rational and forthright, is a far cry from the tracksuit wearing rabble rouser surrounded by very angry looking bald white men.

His speech was good, do I feel his anger is justified? In part yes, do I agree with him or his views no.

Thank you for watching..I shall read it once more in the morning.

[Beso]

Fair enough

[Beso]

Read it again..

Just setting a reminder for myself when I get up for work..about his followers..because that following could be argued came.from the media's manipulation of him..

Once again Kizzy, thanks for watching

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Read it again..

Just setting a reminder for myself when I get up for work..about his followers..because that following could be argued came.from the media's manipulation of him..

Once again Kizzy, thanks for watching

Yet his followers who support him publicly during his speeches, those aggressive patriots that surround him don't hear the media bias do they? They get their info straight from the horses mouth.

[GiRTh]

Bit further in, but I find I cannot go more than a few minutes before I'm questioning something he's said. He claims he was only ever against Radical Islam. SO how did EDL get the Islamophobic tag? He needed to clear that up and he hasnt.

This is the big problem with him giving rah rah speeches. Too much history for him to make a statement then simply move on to another topic.

[GiRTh]

He says he was 'Instantly' accused of racism when he starting talking about grooming gangs. Instantly? Come on Tommy lad. Maybe it was his affiliation with the BNP and EDL that made people question his motives.

He cant make such a statement without response.

[GiRTh]

He's corrected my previous point. Was the EDL started before or after he started talking about grooming gangs. If before, then he was just a BNP member. How dare they accuse him of racism, instantly.

How long before he says something else that I have to question? Shouldn't be too long.

[GiRTh]

FFS Cant carry on like this.

Next statements -

I instantly felt the full force of the establishment. The weaponisation of the media etc.

This guy cant make this speech. Too much to stop him about and ask questions.

Gonna have to watch about 15 minutes before I comment again cuz this is becoming too much. So far I have failed to see any point that he has made. Sure the media are awful but this attention seeker cant make this speech.

[GiRTh]

'The lies put against me in the media are just like Nazi Germany'.

I tried. I think I've given it a good go but cant get far. I'm turning this prick off my screen. Seen enough.

[GiRTh]

And you're telling me i have to watch 20 minutes of this bull**** before it gets good. Nah, son. I'll see if I can watch it while I'm taking a crap. Seems appropriate.

[GiRTh]

Put it back on...too curious and to what crap he'll come out with next. Almost felt sorry for him as he told the story of the young man beaten up and the clear media bias against him. Then he said 'An innocent English man robbed by a racist gang of Muslims'. A few minutes ago he had real problem with being called racist, instantly apparently, but he's happy to throw that word around himself.

[GiRTh]

25 minutes in and still garbage. So Tommy Robinson is not a far right extremist, he's not even far right, he hates the far right and the media have made up every negative thing we've read about him. Nicely done.

You'd have to search all the articles hes talking about and fact check each point made to prove he's a lying piece of sh*t, no one has the time for that. Say it again, nicely done

The cherry picked videos? Make your own mind up

[GiRTh]

42.46 minutes in and I'm actually starting to find him fascinating. In the way you'd find say a sociopath or clear narcissist fascinating. Poor guy.

He says 'My opposition to Islam caused this'. Not radical Islam? Thanks for clearing that up Tommy lad.

[GiRTh]

@47.20 Sir Nick Clegg, if you dont mind bitch!!!!!

[GiRTh]

The members of this forum should thank me. I watched that so you dont have to.

15 minutes of him making subjective claims about his background and then 40 plus minutes of 'poor me'.

[LemonJam]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

The members of this forum should thank me. I watched that so you dont have to.

15 minutes of him making subjective claims about his background and then 40 plus minutes of 'poor me'.

[Mystic Mock]

You deserve to be knighted for watching that Girth.

[user104658]

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[Alf]

I tried engaging in conversation with you Kizzy. But the authority won't let me.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Alf

I tried engaging in conversation with you Kizzy. But the authority won't let me.

???

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

???

I was just having a light hearted joke about you only taking half a red pill, instead of a full one. There was no malice in it, but someone was offended on your behalf.