[seaodw]

Originally Posted by Hayden

The last glimmer of hope BBUS ever had

Youtube video

I literally just sat and watched all of this. I need to go re watch the whole season now. Gameplay may have been messy but it was very entertaining

[Captain.Remy]

So I've read this comment on a post from Big Brother Network website, and it perfectly sums up what I'm feeling right now about it:

As I commented in another thread, BB has structural issues that tends to make it a “boat race” where an alliance can dominate early and thus steamroll until about the midpoint of the game. You get two comp beasts in the same alliance and you can pretty much lock things in for a long, boring “boat race” of a time. Tyler and Cody, Tyler and Cody, like left foot right foot, marching to victory. Yawn...

Mix it up, Grodner! And I don’t mean putting your thumb on the scale to benefit certain players, like it appears you like to do. Survivor smokes Big Brother for delivering power shifting drama. On Survivor, tribal councils are thick with anticipation. Anyone without an immunity necklace can go home. In BB, eviction nights carry little surprise. Even if one houseguest who thought they were safe goes home, it’s not a blindside to the degree a Survivor blindside is. Survivor blindsides have the power to take everyone’s breath away. Only about half the house feels a semblance of a gut punch in a BB blindside.

From week to week, only a small handful of people are likely to go home in BB. For a game that likes to tease the audience with “expect the unexpected,” it’s a highly predictable game. Give me a game where there is more drama on eviction night. Do away with this HOH/POV structure. It’s yielding predictability. Give me a game that doesn’t have what equates to a dozen immunity necklaces being worn on eviction nights. We see two people ****ting their pants most of the week while the rest breathe with varying degrees of security. It’s not driving near enough drama, and it could be a much more compelling game.

[Calderyon]

Would axing POV do the trick? Replacing itwith this safety competition, but everyone would get to play every week until a certain point?

Or allow everyone to play in the POV like in BB3? (Before Golden power of Veto was introduced)

[Pro Sniper]

How would that help? You'd still have the same dominant alliance winning it, and weaklings with no other option but to cling onto that alliance and "go along with their decision" to hopefully pick off a straggler that is even more useless than themselves. The problem always comes back to having hopelessly weak players. If ALL players were strong from the off we'd have much greater possibility of seeing them all jostle for position. And with any and all players capable of winning comps, the power is unlikely to be boringly attached to only a couple of faces.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Pro Sniper

How would that help? You'd still have the same dominant alliance winning it, and weaklings with no other option but to cling onto that alliance and "go along with their decision" to hopefully pick off a straggler that is even more useless than themselves. The problem always comes back to having hopelessly weak players. If ALL players were strong from the off we'd have much greater possibility of seeing them all jostle for position. And with any and all players capable of winning comps, the power is unlikely to be boringly attached to only a couple of faces.

But clearly it's the same type of people who are good at comps. And I don't want a season full of Cody/Tyler kind of HGs. I mean, how often do we get a Janelle type that is mixing bits of all aspects? Not often. And really we never know if someone is going to be a good player before the show even starts. Even casting team can't predict that (I mean, to a certain extent they do, but can't be 100% sure)

[Aaliyah]

They need to adopt the UK format of the public having the decision of who goes and who wins

[Calderyon]

Originally Posted by Aaliyah

They need to adopt the UK format of the public having the decision of who goes and who wins

They already had it on BB1 and it bombed, which is why they changed it to this.

[emseateng2014]

yup and thats why its lasted for 25 years

Originally Posted by Calderyon

They already had it on BB1 and it bombed, which is why they changed it to this.

[Pro Sniper]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

But clearly it's the same type of people who are good at comps. And I don't want a season full of Cody/Tyler kind of HGs. I mean, how often do we get a Janelle type that is mixing bits of all aspects? Not often. And really we never know if someone is going to be a good player before the show even starts. Even casting team can't predict that (I mean, to a certain extent they do, but can't be 100% sure)

You can't tell me they couldn't find a full female cast that couldnt mix it with any gender. They don't all have to be as good as Janelle(an obvious outlier in terms of complete package) they only need be solid enough competitors who aren't so disgustingly reliant on the assistance of males to do all their dirty work and drag them into positions they have no buisiness being. Males naturally have greater body strength so if they're still concerned by that then do away with all the comps that solely or largely rely on nothing but strength..and focus on more balanced games that requires an attribute/skill that both genders can easily have.

Originally Posted by Aaliyah

They need to adopt the UK format of the public having the decision of who goes and who wins

Don't be ridiculous.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Pro Sniper

You can't tell me they couldn't find a full female cast that couldnt mix it with any gender. They don't all have to be as good as Janelle(an obvious outlier in terms of complete package) they only need be solid enough competitors who aren't so disgustingly reliant on the assistance of males to do all their dirty work and drag them into positions they have no buisiness being. Males naturally have greater body strength so if they're still concerned by that then do away with all the comps that solely or largely rely on nothing but strength..and focus on more balanced games that requires an attribute/skill that both genders can easily have.

Hence why BB Australia this year had really good and interesting challenges that both genders could win. It seemed more fair. We've had nice surprises thanks to that instead of dudes steamrolling to the end without getting touched at all. (if not mistaken about half of challenges were won by girls and a back to back for Queen Angela )

The Australian format was interesting, but it can't last a week to have one HoH nominate 3 people and leave it as that for 6 days. The Brazilian format is interesting because it's a mix of BB US and public voting. They still have HoH, veto, Power of Immunity, Veto etc

[madman411]

Originally Posted by Aaliyah

They need to adopt the UK format of the public having the decision of who goes and who wins

This. Maybe BBUS should go more back to basics. The show is/has been big enough now with a big enough audience. Perhaps the public vote format would actually prove popular.

[emseateng2014]

they did back in season 1 but cbs got low ratings and i think bad reviews then when big brother usa did return for season 2 they changed the style and format to what it is today for 25 seasons

Originally Posted by Aaliyah

They need to adopt the UK format of the public having the decision of who goes and who wins

[LukeB]

I've been enjoying the old school memes that's been going around on twitter, it's a shame those TV gold moments will never happen because of Alison and Robyn Kass. (And Derrick) who made BBUSA really tame and predicable.