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I think its a really difficult question for people who live here to answer, if we were brought up and it was normal to have one, and you saw them in Walmart every day I guess I might as it would be pretty much normalised.

as someone brought up in Ireland then no
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I think its a really difficult question for people who live here to answer, if we were brought up and it was normal to have one, and you saw them in Walmart every day I guess I might as it would be pretty much normalised.

as someone brought up in Ireland then no
Also depends on the state though, gun ownership on the East coast for example is very low compared to the Southern States
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Also depends on the state though, gun ownership on the East coast for example is very low compared to the Southern States
That is what I mean, if it was normal in the state I was brought up in
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Maybe, guns have never interested me though. Most places there wouldn't be much need for one really. America's relationship with guns is something i'll never understand though. I know it's in their constitution, and that many, many gun owners are responsible people, but some of the laws and regulations in certain states is nothing than draconian.

It also comes down to the type of gun too. No one needs to own AK-49's or any type of semi automatic assault rifles. I can understand someone carrying a small handgun for protection though, depending on job/time/where they work etc.
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...no, I would never own a gun....
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What if we change the title to bombs?
you kinda proved my point, it was normal to hear about bombings on the news when I grew up
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When I lived in the States the family I worked for were from New York state and as such did not own a gun. We moved to South Carolina where guns were commonplace. I remember first getting into a friends car and there was a small pistol on the dashboard (they have non-concealment laws there). You soon become desensitised to seeing them.

I personally would not own one
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the way i look at it is in a similar view to knives. People are stabbed regularly in the UK, but i would never carry a knife for protection
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That's not really challenging Niamhs point, it was shifting the blame. Challenging her point would have required him to post a counter point, he didn't.
You mean like Niamh shifting from owning a gun to using dead kids as a reason for not owning one
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Kid kills them selves accidentally with dads gun
Kid drowns in the bath while mum is on the phone, it’s the parents fault in both cases not the gun or the bath waters fault.
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You mean like Niamh shifting from owning a gun to using dead kids as a reason for not owning one
hang on a second there now Sheriff, Slim made a point about statistics around gun deaths in the USA, I quoted him and added to his point and then LT quoted me carrying on the conversation about children, I didn't see you picking up on Slim when it was actually him who was the first person to talk about the reasons why he wouldn't own a gun. My first reply in this thread was "No definitely not" I then got into a conversation with slim about why not which LT chose to join..........but it's me "using dead kids as a reason for not owning one" using dead kids ffs
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Kid drowns in the bath while mum is on the phone, it’s the parents fault in both cases not the gun or the bath waters fault.
One of the examples you have included wouldn’t be possible without the ownership of a gun. A gun isn’t an essential must have item for your home.
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...no, I would never own a gun....

But in your home
say it was in Harlem
one hand gun hidden in your kitchen draw.
Would save you from being attacked and robbed,
if criminals broke in.


I would pay for the Gun
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But in your home
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if criminals broke in.


I would pay for the Gun
to keep you alive
That gun will only save you if you know how to shoot it though. Many Americans own guns but have no clue how to operate them properly or shoot them correctly. Having a gun does not mean that you will not get shot - in fact as Slim said it is more likely that you WILL get shot it you brandish a firearm
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Would save you from being attacked and robbed,
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I would pay for the Gun
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With kids in the house, no...

...otherwise, in all honesty, it depends on the state.
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Hard to answer really. Being raised in a different country, each of our individual "me"s would have different outlooks on some things.

I'd certainly carry a taser or something, if not a gun. When I had to go Birmingham once I borrowed my friend's imported taser thing , because ... Birmingham But thankfully I didn't need to use it.
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That gun will only save you if you know how to shoot it though. Many Americans own guns but have no clue how to operate them properly or shoot them correctly. Having a gun does not mean that you will not get shot - in fact as Slim said it is more likely that you WILL get shot it you brandish a firearm
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It's a difficult question to answer with a UK perspective, tbh. The idea of owning guns is ridiculous to us, but then we weren't raised in a gun-worshipping culture. I dislike guns immensely so I'd think I wouldn't have them.
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