[user104658]

Originally Posted by Saph

the show needs a new writer

its been boring since series 5 tbh

Only if you're a Tennant stan. Smith's whole arc is great and Capaldi has its moments. On a recent rewatch I found the relationship between Capaldoctor and Clara pretty ... odd ... though. Some definite incesty vibes going on . Is it a father-daughter relationship? Is it romantic? You can't ****ing tell and that's just unsettling .

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Only if you're a Tennant stan. Smith's whole arc is great and Capaldi has its moments. On a recent rewatch I found the relationship between Capaldoctor and Clara pretty ... odd ... though. Some definite incesty vibes going on . Is it a father-daughter relationship? Is it romantic? You can't ****ing tell and that's just unsettling .

I really enjoyed a lot of Capaldi/Clara but by series 9 she's pretty much trying to take the lead performance away from Capaldi and it always annoyed me.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I really enjoyed a lot of Capaldi/Clara but by series 9 she's pretty much trying to take the lead performance away from Capaldi and it always annoyed me.

That was always a flaw in Steven Moffat's writing, he could never just let the Doctor lead the Show.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

That was always a flaw in Steven Moffat's writing, he could never just let the Doctor lead the Show.

I don't mind him allowing the companion to have a big role. They should.

But Clara was playing the role of the Doctor in being the smart arse all the time and it was grating.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I really enjoyed a lot of Capaldi/Clara but by series 9 she's pretty much trying to take the lead performance away from Capaldi and it always annoyed me.

But is he her daddy or her boyfriend Marsh no one can tell me and that's weird! Not only that, it's KNOWINGLY weird, because you only have to read slightly between the lines to see that Danny Pink was asking the exact same question .

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

But is he her daddy or her boyfriend Marsh no one can tell me and that's weird! Not only that, it's KNOWINGLY weird, because you only have to read slightly between the lines to see that Danny Pink was asking the exact same question .

FILTH!

[Calderyon]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

But is he her daddy or her boyfriend Marsh no one can tell me and that's weird! Not only that, it's KNOWINGLY weird, because you only have to read slightly between the lines to see that Danny Pink was asking the exact same question .

Both?

[Saph]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Only if you're a Tennant stan. Smith's whole arc is great and Capaldi has its moments. On a recent rewatch I found the relationship between Capaldoctor and Clara pretty ... odd ... though. Some definite incesty vibes going on . Is it a father-daughter relationship? Is it romantic? You can't ****ing tell and that's just unsettling .

I wouldn't say im a Tennant stan.. my fave series was series 1. I just prefer when the show didn't take itself too seriously and was a bit more camp

Matt Smiths series were alright but they got so confusing and kept breaking 'rules' after a while that it just felt like there were never any consequences unless it fit the story. and Capaldis era was ruined by Clara outstaying her welcome by about 2 series. Bill was done dirty!

these new ones with Jodie are painfully boring

[Tom4784]

It'll be a shame if her talents are wasted on the downright offensively bad writing that this era of Who has put out.

I've enjoyed her as the Doctor but I do wish we could have seen her under Moffett's or RTD's care. I don't think, outside of a few episodes, that I could ever bring myself to watch any of Chibnall's era again and it's a shame because I like Jodie Whitaker as the Doctor a lot.

[GiRTh]

I havent watched any yet. Judging by the comments she seems to have suffered from having the wrong production team. Having RTD would have been seen her having much better story arcs.

[Marsh.]

Yeah, she's not the strongest actor to have had the role, but she's badly let down by a show that doesn't know what it wants to be.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, she's not the strongest actor to have had the role, but she's badly let down by a show that doesn't know what it wants to be.

I loved her in the episode of Black Mirror she starred so I think I'll take a look. It seems Dr Who cant live up to the Tennant and Smith years anymore. It'll always be big across the globe but the quality isnt matching the appetite for episodes.

[Marsh.]

I think we saw what a female doctor would look like with Moffat (Clara, River and Missy). Far better than 13.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I think we saw what a female doctor would look like with Moffat (Clara, River and Missy). Far better than 13.

Agree with that. It looks like those were the golden years and did we appreciate this at the time?

[bots]

the current doctor who is catering for a different audience and thats not down to the lead actor, it's down to the script writers. I just can't watch it these days with that collection of writers. If they change them, i will consider watching it again

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the current doctor who is catering for a different audience and thats not down to the lead actor, it's down to the script writers. I just can't watch it these days with that collection of writers. If they change them, i will consider watching it again

Apparently Chibnall wrote on Broadchurch on ITV.

So why the BBC hired someone as a Showrunner who's strength clearly isn't in writing Sci-Fi is beyond me.

I'm with you on only being able to watch the Show again if there is a change in the writing staff.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Apparently Chibnall wrote on Broadchurch on ITV.

So why the BBC hired someone as a Showrunner who's strength clearly isn't in writing Sci-Fi is beyond me.

I'm with you on only being able to watch the Show again if there is a change in the writing staff.

I'm not a fan of his version of DW, but you can't box a writer in on the basis of one project. Even if it is their most famous work.

He worked on Torchwood under RTD.

[Calderyon]

River or Missy would have been excellent Doctor Who's.

[Morgan.]

Touchwood is so good, it’s well worth a watch. Maybe a bit dated now, but still entertaining. All the episodes are om iPlayer still, I believe.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Morgan.

Touchwood is so good, it’s well worth a watch. Maybe a bit dated now, but still entertaining. All the episodes are om iPlayer still, I believe.

I've never seen it either - dated in its storytelling or effects?

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I've never seen it either - dated in its storytelling or effects?

Effects mostly, the storytelling in some places. It did have a lot of progression in terms of real-world issues, but I guess you can just tell that it’s not from 2020.

[Morgan.]

It’s so different from doctor who too in the sense that it was made for adults. The swearing, the sex etc make it completely alien to what most viewers know (pardon the pun)

[Marsh.]

Tbh, I'd be even more mortified if he was the Doctor.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Tbh, I'd be even more mortified if he was the Doctor.

haha, why? I like him!

he's like a slightly less hot Hugh Grant, even with the grating Scouse accent!

[Calderyon]

I disagree.