[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I was talking about this a couple of weeks ago - that when I was in London a couple of years ago, there were bouncers at KFC! Cherie told me it wasn't the case that London fast food places have bouncers but here's another one clear as day . Proven liar Cherie.

It's Birmingham if you read the article

he lobs drink at him outside Birmingham branch]


I accept apologies in currency

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It's Birmingham if you read the article

The situation is spreading

[bots]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It's Birmingham if you read the article

he lobs drink at him outside Birmingham branch]


I accept apologies in currency

he should send you £1600 in bitcoins or else you will publish his most loved score for the last 3 years

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

he should send you £1600 in bitcoins or else you will publish his most loved score for the last 3 years

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

he should send you £1600 in bitcoins or else you will publish his most loved score for the last 3 years

[Livia]

I'll try not to get too despondent at least until they have security checks at the Early Learning Centre. Then I'm throwing in the towel.

[bots]

i think there may be more security due to covid. There was a security guard at the shopping centre i visited recently and that was never the case before. He did absolutely nothing even though people were not wearing masks, but thats another story

[user104658]

Umm I would have won this year clearly, but I opted out and also I think it got cancelled because we all hate each other.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Umm I would have won this year clearly, but I opted out and also I think it got cancelled because we all hate each other.

I was only going to vote if we could give minus points tbh

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I was only going to vote if we could give minus points tbh

Reminds me of a forum I used to be on where there was a reputation system where you got "green gems" under your name, but you could also "neg" and it went into a negative scale of "red gems"... so of course there was competition to have the most red gems.

[Babayaro.]

Security at McDonald’s is fairly normal I thought? Especially late at night when your customers are predominately those going home from a night out

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

Security at McDonald’s is fairly normal I thought? Especially late at night when your customers are predominately those going home from a night out

I've literally never seen it up here but then, I don't think I've ever been in a McDonalds later than maybe 10pm.

My KFC-bouncers experience was at like 6pm . Also it was 2018 I think, so well pre-Covid.

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I've literally never seen it up here but then, I don't think I've ever been in a McDonalds later than maybe 10pm.

My KFC-bouncers experience was at like 6pm . Also it was 2018 I think, so well pre-Covid.

The McDonald’s on princes street usually had them lol

[Niamh.]

They definitely had bouncers in Burger King when I was a teenager, I don't think McDonalds stayed open late back then, oh and there was an Abrakebabra that stayed open late and they had bouncers too

[user104658]

Could have done with them in the "all-night bakery" up in Dundee when I was a student to be fair - that place at 2am was full on Mad Max sometimes. Didn't help that it was actually in a warehouse type building on a random industrial estate nowhere near anything else. But it would have queues of students 50+ long from midnight - 3am .

[Babayaro.]

Ahhh the 24-hour bakery went there after my first legal night out

[Beso]

Surely when you are assaulted you should do everything you can to keep your assailant down, incase they get back up and try again.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Surely when you are assaulted you should do everything you can to keep your assailant down, incase they get back up and try again.

I don't think the "I murdered them because they threw a drink on me and I didn't want them to do it again" defense really stacks up in court.

You should respond with force that's proportionate to the situation. If someone is trying to kill you - do whatever it takes to keep them from doing that. If someone breaks into your house in the night by all means kick 'em down the stairs.

But no, responding to someone hitting/slapping/throwing something at you with GBH is not proportionate. Don't kick someone in the head unless you're ready for the consequences of them dying or suffering permanent disability - because they might.

[Ammi]

…this is really weird…(…and disturbing obviously…)…I don’t know what to make of it…there is a clearer vid on YouTube and the whole thing is very much ‘goaded’ and being laughed at…no concern from anyone filming it for her safety and at one little point it feels as though the ‘security person’ was laughing with them…as if it was all set up…I honestly just don’t know if it’s real or not but it’s pretty awful, obviously…the vid was posted by a YouTube ‘news channel’ so far as I can see but I don’t quite understand these things…maybe to create interest and shock value for their channel and to draw in views…?…anyways, having the baton would be a crime anyway…let alone using it…even security guards, if he indeed is one…are surely not legally allowed to carry or have a weapon of any sort…it’s all a bit weird and something feels a bit off….

Youtube video

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…this is really weird…(…and disturbing obviously…)…I don’t know what to make of it…there is a clearer vid on YouTube and the whole thing is very much ‘goaded’ and being laughed at…no concern from anyone filming it for her safety and at one little point it feels as though the ‘security person’ was laughing with them…as if it was all set up…I honestly just don’t know if it’s real or not but it’s pretty awful, obviously…the vid was posted by a YouTube ‘news channel’ so far as I can see but I don’t quite understand these things…maybe to create interest and shock value for their channel and to draw in views…?…anyways, having the baton would be a crime anyway…let alone using it…even security guards, if he indeed is one…are surely not legally allowed to carry or have a weapon of any sort…it’s all a bit weird and something feels a bit off….

Yes it does look like a set up
Having a baton - is strange for UK.
Is it a rough part of town?


This one did not hit Main TV news

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes it does look like a set up
Having a baton - is strange for UK.
Is it a rough part of town?


This one did not hit Main TV news

…it just feels as though it could have possibly all been staged to create interest in a new ‘YouTube news channel’…I might be wrong but at various points each one of them seemed to be laughing and cheering, very odd behaviour…obviously a disturbing ‘attack’ but it’s hard to know if it was a real attack…


…security guards are t allowed to legally have weapons let alone to use one…they have no authority to be ‘armed’ in any way…that would be a terrifying thought also…

[Livia]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Surely when you are assaulted you should do everything you can to keep your assailant down, incase they get back up and try again.

Don't try to use that defence Parmy x

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Surely when you are assaulted you should do everything you can to keep your assailant down, incase they get back up and try again.

Doesn’t work like that.

I very rarely have to use physical restraint so I know the legalities of it....but when I do it’s because the risk meets the need for it.

It has to be reasonable. This means that there is a risk of serious harm to myself, the public or severe property damage. It has to be proportionate, so using a hold would be proportionate whereas kicking someone in the head wouldn’t. Could I use pava spray or would I have to deploy taser for example or a batton gun ....necessary, does the risk presented make it necessary for me to use force or I can I de-escalate through other methods.

A restraint should also be used for the least amount of time. I could go on and write a lot about this, but it’s not necessary.

Having said all this, even though there will be approved techniques, someone is justifiably able to use other means of restraint, such as a kick to th4 head in the most severe situations where there is an immediate threat to life.

This occasion there wasn’t.

[thesheriff443]

if this was a cop we would have riots and blood on the streets.
He should lose his job and never work in security again.

[user104658]

Did u know though

In risky medical settings (e.g. secure inpatient mental health or sometimes addictions services) - if a staff member or someone else (another member of staff, or a member of the public) is at risk, hair pulling is actually a legitimate and quite effective defense tactic for getting an attacker off of someone... especially a smaller staff member trying to get a larger patient off of someone else in order to restrain.

It's painful and efficient yet highly unlikely to cause serious injury.

Wig snatching. Who knew.

[edit] I actually feel like I should add to this though that most patients in addictions settings are not dangerous (to staff), that's actually an unfair stereotype as most tend to try their best to be respectful of NHS staff, and even the ones who like to mouth off, it's usually just that. They will knock lumps out of each other in the waiting room though .