[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve

Especially in a woman's prison, a lot these women will have been abused themselves and have kids, she will not be popular

Especially those who are missing their daughters


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[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Especially those who are missing their daughters


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Yep. Absolute scum, I just hope that black book surfaces at some point too but I think Maxwell is the one taking the fall for the whole disgusting operation. Those girls deserve more tbh and she deserves to fall but so do so many others

[Crimson Dynamo]

[arista]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...2-6m-name.html


[The mystery of Maxwell's millions:
Sex-trafficker socialite claimed she had
'just' Ł2.6m to her name
when she was arrested last year despite
being wired Ł22m by Epstein - amid claims she
transferred wealth to tech CEO husband
Forensic accountants believe Ghislaine Maxwell
had a net worth of Ł15million ($20.2million) in 2015
But she claimed this was down to just Ł2.6million
by the time she was arrested in New Hampshire in 2020
Maxwell reportedly transferred Ł15million
to her husband Scott Borgerson after they secretly married
She also allegedly bought and sold multiple
mansions and high-value homes between
2015 and 2020]

[Nicky91]

good riddance that this ugly woman is guilty

[thesheriff443]

Prisons in America and around the world, if you have money and connections you can get virtually anything.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Prisons in America and around the world, if you have money and connections you can get virtually anything.

strip her of that money and connections

give her no food or water either


let her rot, and then after this life she will hopefully rot further in hell where she also belongs, worst of the worst criminal on this planet is what she is

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

strip her of that money and connections

give her no food or water either


let her rot, and then after this life she will hopefully rot further in hell where she also belongs, worst of the worst criminal on this planet is what she is

That’s not being very Christian Nicky especially at Christmas

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

That’s not being very Christian Nicky especially at Christmas

christmas is over

and i don't celebrate new years eve, what is there to celebrate in this ****** up world

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

christmas is over

and i don't celebrate new years eve, what is there to celebrate in this ****** up world

Celebrate being alive, do you know how many people fight for one more breath

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

christmas is over

and i don't celebrate new years eve, what is there to celebrate in this ****** up world

If you're feeling low like this Nicky you might wanna consider maybe taking a break from the Internet to get away from stories of this nature for a bit.

I know that I have to do it sometimes as it can psychologically mess you up reading info on these crimes avidly.

I hope that you're doing okay since it's turned to New Yar.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

That’s not being very Christian Nicky especially at Christmas

To be fair I don’t think many people are too concerned about her wellbeing .

I thought it was laughable to hear her brother complaining about her being kept in cramp conditions where she’s been detained


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[bots]

this is american justice which just isnt comparable to the uk

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MeghansLetterToSanta

this is american justice which just isnt comparable to the uk

Yeah, worse police but better justice I think

[bots]

Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve

Yeah, worse police but better justice I think

they built loads of mega prisons and have them privately run for profit, it's the american way

we have old crappy over crowded prisons, so we just cant handle justice the same way. If we had the space, i can guarantee more people would be locked up for longer sentences.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MeghansLetterToSanta

they built loads of mega prisons and have them privately run for profit, it's the american way



we have old crappy over crowded prisons, so we just cant handle justice the same way. If we had the space, i can guarantee more people would be locked up for longer sentences.

Well, I don't know about British justice for sexual abuse victims but its piss poor in Ireland. If you don't pay your TV Licence your ****ed though

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they built loads of mega prisons and have them privately run for profit, it's the american way

we have old crappy over crowded prisons, so we just cant handle justice the same way. If we had the space, i can guarantee more people would be locked up for longer sentences.

What I don't get in the UK is why we don't only have our Prisons for Murderers, Rapists & Paedophiles (or MAPS if we go with the PC term) whilst every other crime gets Community Service, but that's just my opinion I guess.

[Cherie]

Bit odd isn't it that one of the jurors had experienced sexual abuse, thought that question would have been top of the list when they culled the jurors..she might get a mistrial now

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

What I don't get in the UK is why we don't only have our Prisons for Murderers, Rapists & Paedophiles (or MAPS if we go with the PC term) whilst every other crime gets Community Service, but that's just my opinion I guess.

Yep ... I’d go with that .. maybe have the less serious cases doing some useful physical work as a penance


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

What I don't get in the UK is why we don't only have our Prisons for Murderers, Rapists & Paedophiles (or MAPS if we go with the PC term) whilst every other crime gets Community Service, but that's just my opinion I guess.

It's not just your opinion as Neither do I Mock.
I agree with all you've said.
Really strong points.

Only those who commit violence, destruction, murders, and sex offences too.
Are who I'd use prisons for.
Any who may be deemed a physical threat to any other.

Muggers can at times walk free from Courts while someone stealing something gets locked up.
Bonkers.

[Beso]

Burn the witch.

[user104658]

I do have somewhat mixed feelings about this. Obviously her activities are unthinkable and she is rightly being locked up, presumably for the rest of her life, that part is absolutely the correct outcome. My worry though is that in terms of "justice" this will be seen as "an end to it" and the countless rich and powerful men who were raping those trafficked girls will simply get away with it. It would have been Epstein to take the bulk of the fall but - having seen a few documentaries with interviews with him - I can see why he was ultimately deemed "unsuitable". I think he would eventually have talked if he thought he could get a better outcome for himself and have been protected. Maxwell clearly knows the real score (that she can't talk ever).

I suspect names will start trickling out in several decades' time... Once they're all dead and buried and have ultimately escaped justice.

[Niamh.]

Yeah exactly what I was getting at TS, there's so many guilty party's here, not just Maxwell and Epstein

[bots]

to me it's all a bit chicken and egg. Was the supply of young girls initiated by the rich paying money for anything they want illegal or not or the trafficking gang. Ultimately, i believe there wouldnt have been a trafficking gang if it wasn't worth the return it generated, so, by definition, the likes of Andrew, Clinton and Trump bear the ultimate responsibility. They used the service and therefore made it viable. Quite how that translates to criminal behaviour is what needs to be proven, which should be perfectly possible if there is the will to do it. I think with the environment now, criminal proceedings are more likely than at any time in the past, i'm just not sure if it's yet reached the time for it to become a reality

[user104658]

Originally Posted by MeghansLetterToSanta

to me it's all a bit chicken and egg. Was the supply of young girls initiated by the rich paying money for anything they want illegal or not or the trafficking gang. Ultimately, i believe there wouldnt have been a trafficking gang if it wasn't worth the return it generated, so, by definition, the likes of Andrew, Clinton and Trump bear the ultimate responsibility. They used the service and therefore made it viable. Quite how that translates to criminal behaviour is what needs to be proven, which should be perfectly possible if there is the will to do it. I think with the environment now, criminal proceedings are more likely than at any time in the past, i'm just not sure if it's yet reached the time for it to become a reality

I suspect none of it is entirely "about" the young girls, it seems to me that what they offered was a full hedonistic "package" for the ultra-rich that most likely included all sorts of things with varying degrees of legality and they made an absolute fortune from it. The access to these young girls was just one of the "perks" of what they offered which in some ways makes it even more disgusting. No doubt the main draw for many of them. There will be others who didn't touch the girls. Though that's largely irrelevant - at the very least, everyone involved knew what was happening whether it was with them or not. Happy to turn a blind eye. That entire world is full of it.