[Redway]

One thing I’ve learnt about medication is to not judge people’s weight without knowing the circumstances behind it. Topiramate and Orlisat (Xenical) are there to keep people leaner if the tablets they take cause weight gain but both of them have weird side-effects of their own that make people not even want to take them after reading the list, and topiramate wouldn’t normally be recommended just for the sake of losing weight anyway (as impressive a side-effect as it is but you have to need it for another reason, like migraines or bipolar disorder, to justify the horrible side-effects of it). You don’t know if the person who’s recently added 10 pounds is on a tablet that’s directly caused them to gain those extra pounds. It might not be anything to do with their diet/the way they eat or lack of exercise at all. I remember eating at a restaurant in central London about 9 years ago and wondering how one woman who pulled through got like that (she really was quite big) and I slyly (if discreetly) pointed it out to the people I was eating with but what I didn’t factor in is that she could’ve been on tablets that caused tremendous weight-gain and once I realised that (years later) I felt ashamed for judging her for being that big. When the alternative is death or being seriously ill, adding a few pounds is probably the least of someone’s concerns. They’re going to be more aware of their weight than anyone-else anyway but it’s a case of priority. Having a hefty six-pack/summer body is nice and one can worry about that closer to the time but it’s ultimately their bag and probably one that’s quite low on their list of priorities. It’s not for anyone else now to keep rehashing the same misplaced concerns about how someone’s getting fat. You’ve got to ask yourself who the person’s doing it for and it won’t be you. Your rightful own is just to shut up and mind your business.

I’m ambivalent on the whole ‘de-normalise this and that’ kind of ting but one thing people definitely need to stop doing is pointing out that someone’s gained weight like it’s some sort of conversation starter. It’s incredibly rude in the first place but especially when it’s genuinely a side-effect of a medication they take and nothing to actually do with them and unless you have an extensive file of all their confidential medical information you ain’t going to know. It’s none of your business.

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Redway]

There’s a lot of stuff you just don’t know about people. Assumptions can be deadly.

[Zizu]

Thankfully I just take supplements/ vitamins

Magnesium, Vit D3 , Vit K2 and a multivitamin


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[Redway]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Thankfully I just take supplements/ vitamins

Magnesium, Vit D3 , Vit K2 and a multivitamin


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I’d add B6 to that if I were you. Maybe try that and see how you feel in a month’s time.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

I’d add B6 to that if I were you. Maybe try that and see how you feel in a month’s time.

Thank you !


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Thankfully I just take supplements/ vitamins

Magnesium, Vit D3 , Vit K2 and a multivitamin


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Did a qualified doctor tell you to take them or a Big Pharma marketing department?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Did a qualified doctor tell you to take them or a Big Pharma marketing department?

There’s nothing wrong with taking vitamin-supplements, LT. Come on, now. Stop this unwaveringly cynical bait.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Redway

There’s nothing wrong with taking vitamin-supplements, LT. Come on, now. Stop this unwaveringly cynical bait.

yes there is its marketing and fakery


stop being duped

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes there is its marketing and fakery


stop being duped

Half of modern pharmacology is all about marketing. On the list of capitalistic marketing sins taking vitamins (especially D, which it’s proven that we all need) is the least of them. If you personally don’t want to take them, fine, but I personally wouldn’t dissuade someone from a trip to Holland and Barrett or Boots on a Saturday afternoon to buy supplements. There’s a lot worse you can buy so come on. Let’s not be silly about this now.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Did a qualified doctor tell you to take them or a Big Pharma marketing department?

A couple of friends of my brother in law .. one is a nutritionist the other a cancer specialist..

I know absolutely nothing about these matters so I figured they’d know at least more than I ..

Anyways since I’ve been intermittent fasting ( 7 years ) I simply don’t get poorly ( aside from Covid 19 ) and I’m on zero medication so these may just be the icing on the cake .. so to speak


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[Redway]

Originally Posted by Zizu

A couple of friends of my brother in law .. one is a nutritionist the other a cancer specialist..

I know absolutely nothing about these matters so I figured they’d know at least more than I ..

Anyways since I’ve been intermittent fasting ( 7 years ) I simply don’t get poorly ( aside from Covid 19 ) and I’m on zero medication so these may just be the icing on the cake .. so to speak


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Yeah, definitely add vitamin B6 to your regime. If there’s room for another vitamin.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

Yeah, definitely add vitamin B6 to your regime. If there’s room for another vitamin.

I do eat potatoes ( in one form) every day plus three eggs per day and at least one banana… and meat /chicken and a fair amount of milk plus other things

Do I still need B6 supplement do you think ?


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[thesheriff443]

I take tablets for an enlarged prostate, me and two of my neighbours both older one has the same as me and one has cancer of the bladder, he was telling us how they look like mushrooms .

We had a good laugh about the doctors putting their fingers in the bum hole

It’s good to share experience’s with people that have been in the same situation.

[user104658]

I'm terrible at taking medications, I have to set alarms or it just won't happen. Same goes for the kid's meds if they have them. Eldest has taken over responsibility for her own medications when she has them now... much better at it than me.

At the moment I'm not on anything regular, just anti-inflammatories and the 30mg codeines for foot flare ups which have now been joined by other joint flare ups as well (opposite knee is ****ed now due to limp, AND the latest fun addition is that a shoulder injury from when I was in my teens has caught up with me). Falling apart at the seams!

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I'm terrible at taking medications, I have to set alarms or it just won't happen. Same goes for the kid's meds if they have them. Eldest has taken over responsibility for her own medications when she has them now... much better at it than me.

At the moment I'm not on anything regular, just anti-inflammatories and the 30mg codeines for foot flare ups which have now been joined by other joint flare ups as well (opposite knee is ****ed now due to limp, AND the latest fun addition is that a shoulder injury from when I was in my teens has caught up with me). Falling apart at the seams!

Where did codeine come from, for ordinary foot-inflammation? Is it really that severe?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Redway

Where did codeine come from, for ordinary foot-inflammation? Is it really that severe?

They're prescribed, for occasional use if I've had to do a lot of walking/time on my feet. It hadn't (and won't) heal properly, I'll probably have to bite the bullet and get it fused/plated at some point but it's like 2 months off my feet entirely and then another 4 with boot/crutches if I do so not really ideal. Naproxen has more of an effect than the codeine tbf... but I double up if it's stopping me from sleeping.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

They're prescribed, for occasional use if I've had to do a lot of walking/time on my feet. It hadn't (and won't) heal properly, I'll probably have to bite the bullet and get it fused/plated at some point but it's like 2 months off my feet entirely and then another 4 with boot/crutches if I do so not really ideal. Naproxen has more of an effect than the codeine tbf... but I double up if it's stopping me from sleeping.

Oh, is it.
Fairs.

[Redway]

So it’s really that bad you’re going to need plating, then, SB?

[Crimson Dynamo]

id let a doctor tell me and not a company who's job it is to make soulless ghouls make more so they can buy unreliable Mercedes

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

id let a doctor tell me and not a company who's job it is to make soulless ghouls make more so they can buy unreliable Mercedes

You do you, then. Leave Zizu alone. You don’t impose your own medicinal preferences (or lack of) onto other people.

[Redway]

On what planet does vitamin D turn someone into a soulless ghoul anyway? Should people not take lithium, either, going by that logic? It dulls creative intelligence but it’s a gold-standard treatment for bipolar disorder (and even treatment-resistant major depression to an extent) for a reason.

[bots]

Most people don't need vitamins if they eat a balanced diet and get proper exercise. The exception is vitamin D that older people cannot retain so well, so they can need a boost over the winter months

[Redway]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Most people don't need vitamins if they eat a balanced diet and get proper exercise. The exception is vitamin D that older people cannot retain so well, so they can need a boost over the winter months

People of colour (black people anyway) also tend to need more vitamin D in this part of the world. Black people not getting enough of it is actually a serious problem.

[user104658]

Also I've been jinxed by this thread - GP appt yesterday afternoon and I now do have regular meds 2x daily naproxen, morning and evening and omeprazole because apparently regular naproxen ain't very good for the tummy. I'm going to need one of those pill planners that old folks have.