[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Alf

I think you're so wrong. I'm almost certain the people that speak out about the negatives of the trans movement don't wish people dead.

no that is the "trans activists" who do that

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no that is the "trans activists" who do that

I’m pretty sure that would be classed as hate speech if it were directed at any other community


A man was arrested for holding up a blank piece of paper the other day during a Royal walkabout

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I’m pretty sure that would be classed as hate speech if it were directed at anyone other community

Yup, the only acceptable targets these days are the feminists.

The more things change...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no that is the "trans activists" who do that

I still cant get over this if I stood around with a sign saying decapitate ....’insert any form of life’ ....I would be arrested for sure

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I still cant get over this if I stood around with a sign saying decapitate ....’insert any form of life’ ....I would be arrested for sure

And publicly named and shamed, probably lose your job as well.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I still cant get over this if I stood around with a sign saying decapitate ....’insert any form of life’ ....I would be arrested for sure

THE two smiling hags in front are labour msps

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

I think you're so wrong. I'm almost certain the people that speak out about the negatives of the trans movement don't wish people dead.

Correct and we can only speculate at the motive, it could have been an upset girl/boy friend and nothing to do with trans

[UserSince2005]

RIP, the men be nuts because they attracted to her, the girl be nuts because she is more girl than them.
So sad.
I hope the trans haters feel shame for this.

[AnnieK]

There will always be people who don't like how people live their lives.....wishing people dead whose generations fought for the rights people have now is counter productive. Education is always the way to go...some people just don't want to learn sadly.

There are extremes on all sides but the majority of people I have ever experienced are very much live and let live.

This poor girl has lost her life, whatever the reason, it is a senseless tragedy. Her family have said she was an amazing daughter, granddaughter and friend. RIP to her. Knife crime is a real problem now in this country and needs to be tackled

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

There will always be people who don't like how people live their lives.....wishing people dead whose generations fought for the rights people have now is counter productive. Education is always the way to go...some people just don't want to learn sadly.

There are extremes on all sides but the majority of people I have ever experienced are very much live and let live.

This poor girl has lost her life, whatever the reason, it is a senseless tragedy. Her family have said she was an amazing daughter, granddaughter and friend. RIP to her. Knife crime is a real problem now in this country and needs to be tackled

great post Annie, this is yet another knife crime, there is no indication what the motive is anymore than any other knife crime, jumping on the assumption this is an anti trans issue and saying this is the older generations fault for some unfathomable reason given it was kids who committed the crime is just nonsensical


The family must be in bits that is all we need to think of

[Beso]

This exact same thing happened in romford a year or so ago. It ended up being a gang initiation thing.

Poor girl left dead after another teen stabbed her from behind.

[Beso]

I bet all people feel is heartbreak for the death of such a beautiful girl with her whole life ahead of her, and anger at the scum that killed her.

[arista]

[UserSince2005]

The more I think of this the more sad it is

Just thinking of a plaque I once walked past in a park in Barcelona for a trans person murdered for being trans

Looked her up. Sonia Rescalvo, murdered in 1991.
Over 30 years later the exact same thing happens in the U.K.
So much for progress
Disgusted

[user104658]

I know it sounds like an old trope and I'm sure every generation says this but the violence in schools really does seem to be increasing, it's terrifying. Yes there were fights and scraps when I was at school but nothing like it seems now - at my daughters school it seems like there are assaults every day, people getting lured into bathrooms and beat up, people threatened and then followed him to be attacked along the way. Usually someone filming it and it goes around on whatsapp/Snapchat. Constantly police at the school. My daughter's had multiple friends take time off because of being attacked. She herself had a boy put his hands round her neck and police were involved.

And that's a fairly small non-city highschool in Scotland - thankfully nothing involving weapons/knives I've heard of so far but it's definitely a level of violence way beyond when I was at school.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I know it sounds like an old trope and I'm sure every generation says this but the violence in schools really does seem to be increasing, it's terrifying. Yes there were fights and scraps when I was at school but nothing like it seems now - at my daughters school it seems like there are assaults every day, people getting lured into bathrooms and beat up, people threatened and then followed him to be attacked along the way. Usually someone filming it and it goes around on whatsapp/Snapchat. Constantly police at the school. My daughter's had multiple friends take time off because of being attacked. She herself had a boy put his hands round her neck and police were involved.

And that's a fairly small non-city highschool in Scotland - thankfully nothing involving weapons/knives I've heard of so far but it's definitely a level of violence way beyond when I was at school.

coz social media and the ability to reach many eyes and ears with one push of a button

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

coz social media and the ability to reach many eyes and ears with one push of a button

I do think that there are a lot more assaults because of the ability to film it and put it online. Half the time that's the goal.

A girl my daughter knows from primary school was lured into the bathrooms by three girls in their year, one filming and two who attacked her. They judged it wrong as the girl whilst being shy/bit of a loner is also a gymnast and ridiculously strong and she started swinging and smacked the **** out of both of the girls attacking her... The girl filming (their friend) still posted it online because clearly at the end of the day, the only real aim was to get a "funny/dramatic video" of someone getting beat up, and it didn't matter that the tables were turned.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I do think that there are a lot more assaults because of the ability to film it and put it online. Half the time that's the goal.

A girl my daughter knows from primary school was lured into the bathrooms by three girls in their year, one filming and two who attacked her. They judged it wrong as the girl whilst being shy/bit of a loner is also a gymnast and ridiculously strong and she started swinging and smacked the **** out of both of the girls attacking her... The girl filming (their friend) still posted it online because clearly at the end of the day, the only real aim was to get a "funny/dramatic video" of someone getting beat up, and it didn't matter that the tables were turned.

there are so many videos of young adults tricking their partner into thinking they are cheating on them and this seems to be popular and liked

that has to be the single most horrible thing I could think of doing to my wife/partner and i am sure most people of the non internet/phone generation (ie over say 40s)

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

there are so many videos of young adults tricking their partner into thinking they are cheating on them and this seems to be popular and liked

that has to be the single most horrible thing I could think of doing to my wife/partner and i am sure most people of the non internet/phone generation (ie over say 40s)

its just horrible, I think that just shows how insecure they are and they want that jealous reaction to make them feel special...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I know it sounds like an old trope and I'm sure every generation says this but the violence in schools really does seem to be increasing, it's terrifying. Yes there were fights and scraps when I was at school but nothing like it seems now - at my daughters school it seems like there are assaults every day, people getting lured into bathrooms and beat up, people threatened and then followed him to be attacked along the way. Usually someone filming it and it goes around on whatsapp/Snapchat. Constantly police at the school. My daughter's had multiple friends take time off because of being attacked. She herself had a boy put his hands round her neck and police were involved.

And that's a fairly small non-city highschool in Scotland - thankfully nothing involving weapons/knives I've heard of so far but it's definitely a level of violence way beyond when I was at school.

Really? You think so?

I would give the teens of today a run at my east London school. No phones, no social media... it was a terrifying, violent place where you were as likely to get a dig from a teacher as a pupil. Of course, it's been completely rebuilt now there are no whites left in the area and sends three or four Africans to Oxbridge every year. Back then, I think I was the first ever and that's because my parents paid for proper tuition.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Really? You think so?

I would give the teens of today a run at my east London school. No phones, no social media... it was a terrifying, violent place where you were as likely to get a dig from a teacher as a pupil. Of course, it's been completely rebuilt now there are no whites left in the area and sends three or four Africans to Oxbridge every year. Back then, I think I was the first ever and that's because my parents paid for proper tuition.

Well I did specify "non-city" for a reason, I'm aware that city schools are a whole different beast and always have been, but I went to a school very similar to my daughters and can only compare like-for-like. Of course, there's the possibility that I was spared/unaware of the worse stuff during my time at school and simply wasn't aware of it BECAUSE of no cameras/social media. I guess just because I wasn't part of it and also wasn't targeted, I shouldn't assume it wasn't happening.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I know it sounds like an old trope and I'm sure every generation says this but the violence in schools really does seem to be increasing, it's terrifying. Yes there were fights and scraps when I was at school but nothing like it seems now - at my daughters school it seems like there are assaults every day, people getting lured into bathrooms and beat up, people threatened and then followed him to be attacked along the way. Usually someone filming it and it goes around on whatsapp/Snapchat. Constantly police at the school. My daughter's had multiple friends take time off because of being attacked. She herself had a boy put his hands round her neck and police were involved.

And that's a fairly small non-city highschool in Scotland - thankfully nothing involving weapons/knives I've heard of so far but it's definitely a level of violence way beyond when I was at school.

When i was at the village school in the 60s/70s we had gangs of kids fighting with hatchets at the school gates at lunch time and a good friend of mine was stabbed 3 times (and survived). This was at one of the best schools in glasgow

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

When i was at the village school in the 60s/70s we had gangs of kids fighting with hatchets at the school gates at lunch time and a good friend of mine was stabbed 3 times (and survived). This was at one of the best schools in glasgow

True, to be fair my dad grew up in Glasgow in the 60's and he once nostalgically from a train window pointed out a bridge to me, "where he was cornered and someone stabbed him with a screwdriver" when he was 14. It missed his liver by millimeters! He said it so casually.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

True, to be fair my dad grew up in Glasgow in the 60's and he once nostalgically from a train window pointed out a bridge to me, "where he was cornered and someone stabbed him with a screwdriver" when he was 14. It missed his liver by millimeters! He said it so casually.

glasgow was known as the knife capital of europe back then, but the authorities did a lot to make the streets safer

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

glasgow was known as the knife capital of europe back then, but the authorities did a lot to make the streets safer

Obviously gun crime can do a lot more damage but there's something really vicious and terrifying about knife crime