[Cherie]

It was nice to see they could take the piss out of him taking his bible upstairs, which was funny, no one with have dared do that to Khaled or Hanah lbr

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Totally disagree here. Yes they're both flirting, the issue though is Segun was going around telling people that it's Hanah that's always coming over to him and he does nothing which isn't true at all. Hanah has never said anything like that about him. And she wasn't throwing him under the bus, I think she took, what must have been quite an upsetting thing to hear from people she trusts, extremely well. She was actually really nice to Segun when they spoke. It was his reactions that were a bit hilarious

I think it's more complex than that. Hanah is, rightfully, taking advantage of the prophetic ministries of her bestie. (Who sounded very interesting on L&L, btw. I've love to know more about their relationship.)

I'm sure Hanah knows after spending weeks with Segun that his highest form of English is literally waffle. No one seems to be confused about that re: Segun in the house.

He doesn't even deny their chemistry, but wants his private thoughts to remain speculative. That would be fair if the relationship were on the outside and progressing at a much more casual pace. However, he's a complete simpleton if he thinks that doesn't come across in any number of ways on camera.

He's ducking admitting anything to the speculation when being confronted about their relationship, because just like Hanah, the speculations were a convenience for the sake of camera time as long as they just stay speculation...

I don't believe Hanah wasn't conscious of how their relationship was coming across on the cameras, as if it weren't ambiguous. I don't believe that for a minute about Segun, either. I just think they were making the most out of the experience, whatever it ends up being. There's nothing wrong with that.

What's changed is they're at the end of it, Segun has won 10K in self-pity bucks fresh out of the prize fund, and the "showmance" has run its full course. So it's like both are tossing a ticking bomb back and forth hoping it won't blow up in their own faces because they're obviously both incredibly concerned how it makes each of them look, for whatever reason.

Obviously, if Segun had admitted feelings, that would've got her off the hook. But Hanah knew there was "another girl" on the outside and she's been rather physically affectionate with him, stroking his ear and the like, despite this (her choice whoever initiated it), so she doesn't want to bear the full responsibility for that. That's fair. But her behavior was anything but innocent... but it was harmless... so for me, it's complex

I think they're both talking crap atm. I don't think of Hanah as a mug or a fool. I don't think Segun is as confused as he portrays himself to be.

I think she's a very intelligent lady and is playing the game and giving Segun a run for his money (literally) and she's not wrong for that. It's complicated, but I'm not giving Hanah a full pass... I think she's well aware of Ali's popularity and personality as the victim wrangler and it's all too obvious to me that she's going for the win. I can't blame her, she could lose 90K all over a man who can't figure himself out... her friend's warning is basically that, put him and his waffle to the side and focus on why she is actually in there.

[madman411]

Not at all. He's been on the fence and pretty much useless this whole season. Pretty sure either week 2 or 3 he didn't utter one word for the entire week.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by madman411

Not at all. He's been on the fence and pretty much useless this whole season. Pretty sure either week 2 or 3 he didn't utter one word for the entire week.

He is in the final and has ten grand so some times it pays to keep your head down and your mouth shut

[Redway]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

He is in the final and has ten grand so some times it pays to keep your head down and your mouth shut

Literally.

[Mystic Mock]

I personally think that Segun is getting the rough end of the stick a little bit.

I honestly don't believe that he has really done anything wrong, especially compared to the other five Housemates in fairness.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I personally think that Segun is getting the rough end of the stick a little bit.

I honestly don't believe that he has really done anything wrong, especially compared to the other five Housemates in fairness.

It's really not that bad but they are so close to a win it is a great opportunity for Hanah I think unfortunately for Segun, with both Hanah and Ali there is a bit of tactical gameplay going on there. As if anyone was actually emotionally invested in a Hanah + Segun pairing..

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Maru

It's really not that bad but they are so close to a win it is a great opportunity for Hanah I think unfortunately for Segun, with both Hanah and Ali there is a bit of tactical gameplay going on there. As if anyone was actually emotionally invested in a Hanah + Segun pairing..

I agree with you tbh.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Poor bloke was so upset and confused which has now marred what should have been a really happy last couple of days for him. Totally inappropriate of Hanah's friend to bring that up.

Also what is Seguns great crime? He clearly is a bit conflicted about his relationship with Hanah so that's something he's trying to work through. He doesn't want it to be perceived as a romantic relationship but when all the housemates are in his ear about it that's going to make things awkward.

I think his comments about 'she always comes to me' were a bit poorly judged but not crime of the century especially compared to the comments other housemates have made about each other. And overall he's been a really good friend to Hanah so it wasn't nice of her 'home girls' to plant this idea that he's a total snake.

Poor Shegs

Yeah I feel he was thrown under the bus a bit, he has never been nominated for eviction either so obviously his HMs like him, Ali and Nathan are both so full of spite they cant contemplate that someone can be just nice, he is obviously committed to being a Christian and tries to live his life that way, not sure why there is so much suspicion about it, someone put it very well on L and L that he is not living up to the black man stereotype and that is throwing some people, if he were a fan fave and not Ali she would be called racist for some of her comments lbr, okay he hasn't handled it well, but then he has said he has never had a girl as a friend before and if he is in some sort of arrangement which I feel he might be, he might be feeling awkward about it, it made uncomfortable viewing last night, he was getting alot of Love on Late and Live though which was nice to see

[Ammi]

…no, I didn’t feel sorry for him…he can be ‘two sides of the coin’ in that whatever bind he and Hanah have…it’s always felt to us and indeed to the housemates that it’s an equal/mutual thing…but in intimating that any affection or attention mainly came from Hanah, is just not good…the suggestion was that he needed a massage after the choice he’d had to make in the vault/a difficult day for him and did he go straight to Hanah to hope for that calming massage…Im thinking that’s quite likely…anyway, it’s not so much their friendship and what’s mutual etc…it’s how he’s reacted a few times when he’s felt something he thinks is ‘criticism’ …’it’s Hanah, honestly it it…’…’it was Marcello with the coining of the red witch label’….no sir, no Lord…it’s not me…


….he's not a bad person at all, but it sometimes feels as though he feels that he has to ‘be perfect’ and in doing that, he won’t self improve…because that first step it to acknowledge….

…anyway, it all gave a great moment of comedy for the others in his self pity in climbing the stairs ….

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…no, I didn’t feel sorry for him…he can be ‘two sides of the coin’ in that whatever bind he and Hanah have…it’s always felt to us and indeed to the housemthe suggestion was that he needed a massage after the choice he’d had to make in the vault/a difficult day for him and did he go straight to Hanah to hope for that calming massage…Im thinking that’s quite likely…ates that it’s an equal/mutual thing…but in intimating that any affection or attention mainly came from Hanah, is just not good…anyway, it’s not so much their friendship and what’s mutual etc…it’s how he’s reacted a few times when he’s felt something he thinks is ‘criticism’ …’it’s Hanah, honestly it it…’…’it was Marcello with the coining of the red witch label’….no sir, no Lord…it’s not me…


….he's not a bad person at all, but it sometimes feels as though he feels that he has to ‘be perfect’ and in doing that, he won’t self improve…because that first step it to acknowledge….

…anyway, it all gave a great moment of comedy for the others in his self pity in climbing the stairs ….

No he asked where Sarah was as she was the one who gave massages as she works in a spa

[Niamh.]

The whole thing made it a really funny episode for final week which can be boring. Actually my son and his g/f sat and watched the episode with me and they both laughed most of the way through it. I think that was the first time Luke actually watched a full episode. He said he'd love to go in and all I think he'd be a great HM

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The whole thing made it a really funny episode for final week which can be boring. Actually my son and his g/f sat and watched the episode with me and they both laughed most of the way through it. I think that was the first time Luke actually watched a full episode. He said he'd love to go in and all I think he'd be a great HM

…Luke for the winner, for sure…I’m calling that right now…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…Luke for the winner, for sure…I’m calling that right now…

Could you imagine if he was HM, I'd have to leave the forum. Can you imagine people coming for my baby boy?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Could you imagine if he was HM, I'd have to leave the forum. Can you imagine people coming for my baby boy?

…and we’d all be circling around as well …like a movie Western, type big shoot our scene…one word, just one word and our guns would be out of the holsters and pointing right at that person who absolutely dared……it’s anyone who would criticise or besmirch him in any way who would have to leave for their own well being and safety…

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Could you imagine if he was HM, I'd have to leave the forum. Can you imagine people coming for my baby boy?

Us screaming at the TV “his mum must be trash”

I do feel for family members, especially when a housemate gets a really negative reaction. Must be hard for them to deal with.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Us screaming at the TV “his mum must be trash”

…we’d only get as far as …’his mom must be tr……’…and we’d be in the ones in that ban bin …oh, the power….

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Us screaming at the TV “his mum must be trash”

I do feel for family members, especially when a housemate gets a really negative reaction. Must be hard for them to deal with.

…do you recall when Alex Rose Lee’s mom joined the forum that year and it wasn’t (…too bad…)…until it got close to the final and then it was awful, she was distraught….

[bots]

Being a somewhat dour scotsman, i have an inbuilt natural aversion to people i would describe as being happy, clappy. They are just not to be trusted. No-one will shake me from that perception when i see it coming from some of that group every day

[GlitterUK]

I feel for him because he is in the dark only. The homegirls should have said your conversation with Khaled we watched and heard you instead so it was clearer.

[Katmieow]

Yes,a mountain out of a molehill.He didn't kill some one for FFS

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Katmieow

Yes,a mountain out of a molehill.He didn't kill some one for FFS

Hanah didn't make anything out of it though, she was really nice to him considering people she trusts outside had left her a cryptic message about him and how he wasn't being real or whatever

[Gusto Brunt]

No family member or friends of a housemate should slag another housemate off in a message from home.

And I noticed that s*** stirrer Ali was quick to condemn Segun too.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

No family member or friends of a housemate should slag another housemate off in a message from home.

And I noticed that s*** stirrer Ali was quick to condemn Segun too.

Why???? Its fun

[jamiewordsley]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

No family member or friends of a housemate should slag another housemate off in a message from home.

And I noticed that s*** stirrer Ali was quick to condemn Segun too.

And so she should, 90% of the things she has said has become true. Girl is amazing and going to win