[Mystic Mock]

RIP

Such a tragedy to lose someone so young.

[Cherie]

I only knew him from DOI, seemed very confident and assured, I guess you never know what is going on behind the scenes

RIP

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I only knew him from DOI, seemed very confident and assured, I guess you never know what is going on behind the scenes

RIP

Nope you really don't which is why people just generally should be kind and not so quick to judge.

Not that anyone has with The Viv, but just generally speaking

There's always a causation and more than just the death and addiction. There's a reason WHY and as a society we need more empathy and understanding. Unfortunately, this is lacking for some people.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Nope you really don't which is why people just generally should be kind and not so quick to judge.

Not that anyone has with The Viv, but just generally speaking

There's always a causation and more than just the death and addiction. There's a reason WHY and as a society we need more empathy and understanding. Unfortunately, this is lacking for some people.

100 per cent agree Thomas

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Nope you really don't which is why people just generally should be kind and not so quick to judge.

Not that anyone has with The Viv, but just generally speaking

There's always a causation and more than just the death and addiction. There's a reason WHY and as a society we need more empathy and understanding. Unfortunately, this is lacking for some people.

I agree with you personally.

Tbh society is so bad in general these days, I will controversially say that I'm not surprised that people with poor Mental Health are being pushed over the edge unfortunately.

I don't know what was going on in The Vivienne's life tbh, so maybe I'm really wrong to be mentioning society's ills in this instance.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I agree with you personally.

Tbh society is so bad in general these days, I will controversially say that I'm not surprised that people with poor Mental Health are being pushed over the edge unfortunately.

I don't know what was going on in The Vivienne's life tbh, so maybe I'm really wrong to be mentioning society's ills in this instance.

Social media is dreadful. There's good in it, but also a lot of bad.

I doubt most would be saying what they're typing to their face or out in the open.

No I don't think you're wrong, it just raises a bigger point

It has been clearly evident in threads surrounding Liam Payne's death.

The addiction/mental health problems doesn't define a person. It's not linear. It's not black and white
Behind all of it is a human who has lost their way.

People flippantly put all the blame on them, like it's as easy to resist as putting the kettle on. There's little regard to all the nuances that lead up to that point.

As it hasn't happened to them they can easily judge or if it has happened to them they've been strong enough to get through it, not everyone is.

People also think status changes things. They have the money to services so that's going to fix it. Not always.

I doubt anyone wants a life of addiction and if it was so easy to solve it then surely they would.

Ignorance will continue and so will a lack of empathy unfortunately.

[Barry.]

Still in shock. She was going places with her west end jobs.

[Liam-]

And they spent the last week or so of their life being harassed and abused by cruel homophobic/gender critical weirdos because they dared appear on a tv show at Christmas

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

And they spent the last week or so of their life being harassed and abused by cruel homophobic/gender critical weirdos because they dared appear on a tv show at Christmas

I doubt he got any more or less abuse than anyone else who appears on TV, its a thick skinned game unfortunately

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I doubt he got any more or less abuse than anyone else who appears on TV, its a thick skinned game unfortunately

Disagree

He was punched in the face a couple of years a go because of his sexuality.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

And they spent the last week or so of their life being harassed and abused by cruel homophobic/gender critical weirdos because they dared appear on a tv show at Christmas

Is that what happened?

Some people can be so cruel.

[arista]

[The 'sudden' death of The Vivienne is not being treated
as suspicious, police have confirmed - as tributes pour
in for the 'sweetest soul' who shot to fame
on RuPaul's Drag Race UK.

The star, whose real name was
James Lee Williams, tragically died last week
aged 32 following a glittering career that
launched to new heights when they
won the inaugural season of
RuPaul's Drag Race UK in 2019.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Vivienne.html




[The Vivienne's tragic death was
confirmed on Sunday by her
publicist, who paid tribute to
the 'incredibly loved star'.]

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by arista

[The 'sudden' death of The Vivienne is not being treated
as suspicious, police have confirmed - as tributes pour
in for the 'sweetest soul' who shot to fame
on RuPaul's Drag Race UK.

The star, whose real name was
James Lee Williams, tragically died last week
aged 32 following a glittering career that
launched to new heights when they
won the inaugural season of
RuPaul's Drag Race UK in 2019.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Vivienne.html




[The Vivienne's tragic death was
confirmed on Sunday by her
publicist, who paid tribute to
the 'incredibly loved star'.]

The amount of condolences on this that have been ‘disliked’ because it’s a drag queen

[arista]

Yes,
we will find out what killed him,
so it could be drugs, for example.


Police are not looking for any other person


He was good-looking


When he started
He did a Great Trump impersonation.
A clip was on CH5HD AM Live

It was the panel
Lorraine of ITV
was on it

[UserSince2005]

my gosh tyra's tweets about vivs death.

[UserSince2005]

people are calling for tyra to be decrowned.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

people are calling for tyra to be decrowned.

You going to tell us what was said ? ,I don't use x / twitter .

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

You going to tell us what was said ? ,I don't use x / twitter .

she made a joke about the fumes from the cremetorium and also said she was dead and rotting in another tweet

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

You going to tell us what was said ? ,I don't use x / twitter .

…they made a comment that was apparently in ‘delayed’ response to something that The Vivienne had said previously…it refers to her death now and is felt to be ‘inappropriate/insensitive/in bad taste…’…whichever applies, really….meh, they’re entitled to comment…these things only get any traction when they’re paid any heed to…

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…they made a comment that was apparently in ‘delayed’ response to something that The Vivienne had said previously…it refers to her death now and is felt to be ‘inappropriate/insensitive/in bad taste…’…whichever applies, really….meh, they’re entitled to comment…these things only get any traction when they’re paid any heed to…

Oh, it was absolutely in bad taste. Tyra is a vile queen in general and has just stooped to a whole new low.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Oh, it was absolutely in bad taste. Tyra is a vile queen in general and has just stooped to a whole new low.

…I don’t think I watched their DR season so am not massively familiar with them…and yeah, it’s not pretty bad taste comment and my thoughts are that bad taste reflects on Tyra more than anything else, that they would make the comment …for me, these things are said for the main purpose of personal attention seeking and using someone’s shock death as a ‘prop’….

[Livia]

Sad... But I don't know who this is.

[Gusto Brunt]

Liam Payne aged 31 - now another at just 32, so young.

RIP.

[Beso]

Rest in peace James.

[bots]

It's absolutely tragic when someone goes so young