[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I only knew him from DOI, seemed very confident and assured, I guess you never know what is going on behind the scenes

RIP

Nope you really don't which is why people just generally should be kind and not so quick to judge.

Not that anyone has with The Viv, but just generally speaking

There's always a causation and more than just the death and addiction. There's a reason WHY and as a society we need more empathy and understanding. Unfortunately, this is lacking for some people.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Nope you really don't which is why people just generally should be kind and not so quick to judge.

Not that anyone has with The Viv, but just generally speaking

There's always a causation and more than just the death and addiction. There's a reason WHY and as a society we need more empathy and understanding. Unfortunately, this is lacking for some people.

100 per cent agree Thomas

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Nope you really don't which is why people just generally should be kind and not so quick to judge.

Not that anyone has with The Viv, but just generally speaking

There's always a causation and more than just the death and addiction. There's a reason WHY and as a society we need more empathy and understanding. Unfortunately, this is lacking for some people.

I agree with you personally.

Tbh society is so bad in general these days, I will controversially say that I'm not surprised that people with poor Mental Health are being pushed over the edge unfortunately.

I don't know what was going on in The Vivienne's life tbh, so maybe I'm really wrong to be mentioning society's ills in this instance.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I agree with you personally.

Tbh society is so bad in general these days, I will controversially say that I'm not surprised that people with poor Mental Health are being pushed over the edge unfortunately.

I don't know what was going on in The Vivienne's life tbh, so maybe I'm really wrong to be mentioning society's ills in this instance.

Social media is dreadful. There's good in it, but also a lot of bad.

I doubt most would be saying what they're typing to their face or out in the open.

No I don't think you're wrong, it just raises a bigger point

It has been clearly evident in threads surrounding Liam Payne's death.

The addiction/mental health problems doesn't define a person. It's not linear. It's not black and white
Behind all of it is a human who has lost their way.

People flippantly put all the blame on them, like it's as easy to resist as putting the kettle on. There's little regard to all the nuances that lead up to that point.

As it hasn't happened to them they can easily judge or if it has happened to them they've been strong enough to get through it, not everyone is.

People also think status changes things. They have the money to services so that's going to fix it. Not always.

I doubt anyone wants a life of addiction and if it was so easy to solve it then surely they would.

Ignorance will continue and so will a lack of empathy unfortunately.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Social media is dreadful. There's good in it, but also a lot of bad.

I doubt most would be saying what they're typing to their face or out in the open.

No I don't think you're wrong, it just raises a bigger point

It has been clearly evident in threads surrounding Liam Payne's death.

The addiction/mental health problems doesn't define a person. It's not linear. It's not black and white
Behind all of it is a human who has lost their way.

People flippantly put all the blame on them, like it's as easy to resist as putting the kettle on. There's little regard to all the nuances that lead up to that point.

As it hasn't happened to them they can easily judge or if it has happened to them they've been strong enough to get through it, not everyone is.

People also think status changes things. They have the money to services so that's going to fix it. Not always.

I doubt anyone wants a life of addiction and if it was so easy to solve it then surely they would.

Ignorance will continue and so will a lack of empathy unfortunately.

I agree with you about Social Media, with how many people that use them it would be really hard to imagine that they're all bad people.

And I agree with you on Celebrities addictions, a lot of people did just ignore Liam's issues because he was from 1D, and people couldn't imagine anyone from that group having problems.

Obviously those people were wrong, and personally I do think that we need more people to be more compassionate towards anyone in the public eye that is going through some mental health problems, but I doubt that I'll get my wish.

I do controversially wish that some attention seekers on platforms like Twitter and YouTube weren't going around pretending that they have Mental Health issues just to gain new fans, because it takes away from the real cases like Liam Payne, Caroline Flack, and now The Vivienne.