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Piss orf.
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The man who was a member of the EDL, is linked with Britain First and was jailed for affray due to his part in a race-related killing? Sorry if I don't believe him when he says it's not about immigration. Question is, why do you?
The woeley warriors were the first to raise the flags, and they did it to stick 2 fingers up at the government and to take the flag back from the racists. |
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Joseph Moulton, an organiser with Flag Force UK, told GB News that the group wanted to make a "positive impact" rather than just "complaining on social media".
"For us, raising the flag and tidying the local area is about mobilising the community, rekindling social responsibility, and restoring pride in where we live. "In recent years, especially since Covid, the loss of pubs and communal spaces, and the pressures of the cost of living, people have become more atomised and insular. "Combined with wider social and economic difficulties, it is clear we need to start taking responsibility for our communities and making a positive impact, rather than just complaining on social media." |
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would say in the current climate, it's a counter protest against the intentions behind many people putting them up. In any normal situation, when it's not linked with a far-right racist criminal, or not linked with anti-immigration messaging, or not hung outside mosques to intimidate, that, yes, the pulling down of a national flag flown for patriotic reasons is unpatriotic and hateful.
So how do they decipher who's flags whose....or do they just trample over the many, hoping it effects the few? And stick your sly pathetic little dig at the end where the sun don't shine. |
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My main point in this thread was that a large proportion of flags going up aren't for patriotism but for protest, which has yet to be proven wrong and in fact has been confirmed to be true. |
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Yes, but not a protest about immigrants in hotels, a protest about free speech, which is what the organisers have confirmed. |
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So @BBXX
I'm assuming you know your neighbour? So with that you accept they have a flag in their garden because they are patriotic? Yet all these other people putting up flags that you don't know are doing it to protest against immigrants and in doing so, to further make them feel unwelcome even though those people you don't know are saying it's against the government's attack on free speech? Is that correct? |
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I still believe you are wrong. It also makes no sense why a flag flying atop a lamppost would make anyone feel unwelcome...it would be more likely that they would feel welcome, in a putting the bunting up for us kind of way.. We will have to disagree cause the free speech angle seems a much more plausible to me. The people taking them down! What has that coincided with, who's allegiances would they share? |
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Big Rangers Millwall Union Jack proudly flying over the A2 today
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The free speech thing is why they are going up.
And the video in the op shows why. You simply don't get the leeway the left get from the police if you are draped in an English or British flag. The flags started going up when the left counter protesters at the hotels were being bussed in and out to confront the concerned locals by the police themselves. The other video posted yesterday further proves the 2 tier policing when the police arrested the one man being surrounded kicked and punched by a terrorist organisations supporters, rather than arresting them. Last edited by Beso; 09-09-2025 at 02:11 PM. |
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Do you see a flag in this dated video from basildin...or just 2 young arseholes painting a flag? Have you seen the clip of the fella jumping out his van to kick away the ladder of someone putting a flag up sending him crashing to the ground. So tell me, in this particular gameof na na., got ya...which is worse the physical or verbal assault. Using 2 young lads in basildon as proof of being correct in an assumption is a bit pathetic, even from you. Last edited by Beso; 09-09-2025 at 02:22 PM. |
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Once not wanting immigrants to come to the UK is actually racist, then I will answer your question.. As of now, you dont need to be racist to not want them here. |
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Anyone claiming the sudden surge in flags across the country isn’t tied to racism is trolling. There’s no honest explanation for the sheer volume of them appearing.
Racists try to mask it with talk of patriotism and national pride, insisting it’s their right to fly the flag. Of course it is. No one is saying otherwise. But where was this overwhelming pride before? If it was genuine, you’d see flags flying all year round, not just spiking in moments that conveniently align with hostility toward outsiders. Patriotism isn’t seasonal. Pride in your country doesn’t appear and vanish depending on the political climate. The sudden wave of flags isn’t about love of country. It’s about sending a message, and that message is exclusionary.
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Last edited by Beso; 09-09-2025 at 02:57 PM. |
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Operation Raise the Colours: Bexley Council keeps flags
![]() In Bexley, St George’s flags will not be removed from buildings and lampposts unless they pose a health and safety risk to the public. The move follows a very popular national online movement called Operation Raise the Colours, which has seen flags appear on lampposts, buildings, and even mini roundabouts across England, prompting many councils to respond. Residents are encouraged to display flags responsibly A spokesperson for Sir Keir Starmer said the Prime Minister is “absolutely” in favour of people who put up English flags. |
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Robert Jenrick MP
Raise The Colours! 🇬🇧 While Britain-hating councils take down our own flags, we raise them up. We must be one country, under the Union Flag. |
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• Approved a luxury housing development for a donor friend avoiding a levy. Court ruled approval unlawful due to conflict of interest.  • Misled Parliament with exaggerated claims about “modern slavery” among foreign offenders.  •Ordered removal of child-friendly murals in asylum reception centre to create a less welcoming atmosphere.  •Increased use of taxpayer-funded official car service during six-month driving ban. Critics called it inappropriate.  •Acknowledged using Ozempic for weight loss for six weeks before reverting to traditional methods; said he didn’t enjoy the drug.
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Many hope that Robert will be party leader after Kemi leaves
Last edited by Crimson Dynamo; 10-09-2025 at 09:00 AM. |
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The campaign is now in Ireland!
National Campaign: Raise the Tri-colour Flag ![]() Conor McGregor: “If I’m elected president of Ireland, I will deport all illegal immigrants and foreign criminals. There will be no Palestinian or other flags, only the Irish flag will be raised on Irish soil!” |
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The rapist! What a credit to the cause
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