[Tom]

Originally posted by MrGaryy

how can you say no one watched it when the majority of the forums are complaining over it being axed. Clearly a lot of people watched it.

In comparison to highlights viewers I mean .................................. and a whole 22 complaints made. Not that it doesn't mean only 22 people watched, but suggests not many feel as strongly about it as they let on

[MrGaryy]

Well obviously the highlights were alway going to get more viewers, they pick up casual viewers and are at a peak time. You can hardly compare the two.

[Mister-Darko]

Yeah, I always used to watch it when I was awake at like 2AM.

[BIG-BRO-FAN]

I watched the live feed whenever possible. Mostly late at night.

[craiga1993]

i didn't. i did at the start but then it started to get really boring when you coudn't hear what they were saying or they were just lying there

[MR.K!]

The only time i ever watched it was after an eviction for an hour or so thats it.

[SammyAyee]

i used to watch it by red button if there was nothing else on or if i was bored.

[Princess]

Well we don't have the red button here. When I was proper obsessed I used to watch it all the time. For BB9 I watched it if I was bored or someone said something interesting was happening. I did watch loads of edited Live Feed on YouTube though.

[Patrick]

Call me sad..
But almost my whole summer I sat in my room on the computer while watching Live feed through the red button, Missed it so much when i went on Holiday!
And at night i sat up to about 4 in the morning watchen it although Darnell and Kat were all there was to see at that time lol

BB Live feed is 1000 times better than BBBM and BBLB

[Stentionhouse]

Not a great deal, but it wasn't necessary because you had the live update threads to keep you in the loop. No LF=no LUTs. No idea what's going on in the house...quickly leading to disinterest. CBB6 got the lowest viewing figures ever because people were bored...and that was after 3 weeks, with celebs.

[ozzycam]

Yes all the time couldnt wait to get everyone out of the house in the morning and hog it all day ......lol

[Wildcat!]

I watched it, and I watched whenever I wasnt doing anything. And yeah, it will make a huge difference. YOure not gonna get the real feeling in the house anymore. You will only get what the producers want you to see. So anything controversial that happens, anything real, that actually happened will be edited out.

YOu dont have to watch Live Feed 24/7, but if you go on forums, especially DS, there are people at different times that watch, so as a FM, you can come and read what had happened while you werent watching.

Its a huge part of BB, even for some of you people that dont watch LF, when you come on the forum, you read stories from people who were watching, so you were informed through the LF without realising it.
I am not really gonna care all that much because now I know, the show will go as the producers want.

[Christina]

When nothings on i always used to switch over to E4 to watch it!

[Zac]

I only watch about 2 hours of live feed in a week, and I only watched the live feed in BB9, the only reason that I would ever watch the live feed is because i'd have nothing better to do at the time.

[supernoodles!]

tbh I thought all tru bb fans watched it at some point or other,I thought it was only the people who called themselves fans who restricted themselves to JUST highlight shows.Ya know the kind of people who vote the pretty girl out first and always want the stereotypical good looking male to win,they always love the comical gay and the hate all the opinionated and complex characters.

[Brekkie]

Originally posted by Tom
I don't get all the "BB is over without the live feed" talk as I don't think that many people actually watched the red button version anyway.

In that case you don't really get BB.


Even if you never watch the live feed, I'm certain anyone who calls themselves a fan of the show reads articles and forum threads posted online as a result of it happening on the live feed, or even occassionally browses through the various live feed updates scattered across forums and fansites.


Even if there is just one event in the series which you might tune into watch live, the removal of the live feed means that aspect of the show is no longer an option for you - and that means BB is no longer the show it once was.


As someone on Digital Spy put it, the show is no longer BB, but now more like "Big Second Cousin Twice Removed".

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Stentionhouse
Not a great deal, but it wasn't necessary because you had the live update threads to keep you in the loop. No LF=no LUTs. No idea what's going on in the house...quickly leading to disinterest. CBB6 got the lowest viewing figures ever because people were bored...and that was after 3 weeks, with celebs.

Thats exactly how I felt with CBB! It was OK at the beginning, but as soon as I saw the first few housemate nominated, I realised it didnt make any sense. WHich means things are happening in the house that we never get to see, or hear of. So at the end of the day, it was just boring, and I couldnt care less. I didnt even watch the highlights anymore. I am afraind it might become the same for BB10.

[DigitalSid]

Originally posted by Tom

There wasn't really much interest around BB9 though and that held a solid audience. Nor reason why BB10 can't do the same

These forums are quite active as well so its not that bad ...

The idea behind the show was a novelty when it came out but that has gone now and noone uses it anymore

I'd rather sit through 46 minutes of heavily edited highlights if they are entertaining than hours of watching people sat around with bird noises blocking out everything even interesting in the slightest

BB9 had a live feed though.

CBB6 however didn't, and it bombed and the forums, even on D.S., the largest ones of the lot, were dormant most of the day.

Your still not getting the point. Whether we watch it or not, it should be there as an option. Even the poorer countries have a live feed for their big brothers, this channel 4 money crysis (which by the way is bull) is no excuse.

The live feed is what makes BB unique and generates interest, Big Brother all around the world is about watching the housemates 24-7, always has been and always will be.

It's the most important part of the show, the heart if you will, and channel 4 cut it out.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Brekkie
In that case you don't really get BB.


Even if you never watch the live feed, I'm certain anyone who calls themselves a fan of the show reads articles and forum threads posted online as a result of it happening on the live feed, or even occassionally browses through the various live feed updates scattered across forums and fansites.


Even if there is just one event in the series which you might tune into watch live, the removal of the live feed means that aspect of the show is no longer an option for you - and that means BB is no longer the show it once was.


As someone on Digital Spy put it, the show is no longer BB, but now more like "Big Second Cousin Twice Removed".

Most viewers who call themselves fans probably won't go any further than the Channel 4 website when looking online. Forum members are in a huge minority when it comes to BB. Most big things happen at night and the summer housemates are always up until about 4am or 5am anyway, it won't be like Celeb BB where as soon as the live feed comes on you're staring at Tina Malone with her gob wide open.

Originally posted by DigitalSid

BB9 had a live feed though.

CBB6 however didn't, and it bombed and the forums, even on D.S., the largest ones of the lot, were dormant most of the day.

Your still not getting the point. Whether we watch it or not, it should be there as an option. Even the poorer countries have a live feed for their big brothers, this channel 4 money crysis (which by the way is bull) is no excuse.

The live feed is what makes BB unique and generates interest, Big Brother all around the world is about watching the housemates 24-7, always has been and always will be.

It's the most important part of the show, the heart if you will, and channel 4 cut it out.

BB9 was also good, CBB6 wasn't. I usually love CBB even more than the main one, but even I only managed a week.

When talking about CBB6 ratings it always makes me laugh how the first week is completely disregarded. Aside from when they put it on at 11pm everything was above 3m, some of it even touching on 4m. IIRC some the second week wasn't so bad either and it wasn't until the last week when it all went into meltdown. It was an awful series and I don't think a live feed even would've helped that. Of course the fact it was awful had absolutely nothing at all to do with it and it was all the fault of no live streaming

Other similar shows can survive without a live feed. I'm a Celebrity did fine without one, and Hells Kitchen (which this year was formatted more like Big Brother than previous series') managed figures BB would be proud of without one. I think both shows have had one at some point. OK I know the live feed used to be a pivotal point for BB and 2m watched Nasty Nick exposed on the live feed back in 2000 ... but now the figures don't come anywhere near that, and media interest isn't that much. E4 figures are usually about average for E4, and with hardly anyone knowing about the red button service I doubt the figures were great for that either.

[dpbb3]

if nothing else is on i end up watching it.
i know last year i was up revising for exams and stuff so i did just stick it on for abit, watch them all sleeping. ohh how exciting my life was.

[Wildcat!]

So if you now that most forum live feed viewers visit the forums a lot, why would you open this thread on a forum, knowing the audience?

[Tom]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
So if you now that most forum live feed viewers visit the forums a lot, why would you open this thread on a forum, knowing the audience?

If forum viewers are most likely to watch the live feed and only half of them used the red button (which is what the results show atm), what hope does that give the rest of the public when not all people who visited forums even knew a red button existed?

I'm not saying there shouldn't be a live feed (there should) I'm just saying theres no reason BB can't carry on without one

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

Thats exactly how I felt with CBB! It was OK at the beginning, but as soon as I saw the first few housemate nominated, I realised it didnt make any sense. WHich means things are happening in the house that we never get to see, or hear of. So at the end of the day, it was just boring, and I couldnt care less. I didnt even watch the highlights anymore. I am afraind it might become the same for BB10.

Tina Malone said she was shocked after watching the highlights shows back when she left the house - loads and loads of stuff was completely ignored. With no live feed, they basically have a script of how they want things to pan out and just edit stuff to suit that agenda. So it's not reality TV at all any more, just another bad soap.

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by Tom

If forum viewers are most likely to watch the live feed and only half of them used the red button (which is what the results show atm), what hope does that give the rest of the public when not all people who visited forums even knew a red button existed?

I'm not saying there shouldn't be a live feed (there should) I'm just saying theres no reason BB can't carry on without one

BB can't exist without the live feed (at least not with enough viewers to make it viable). Events that happen on the LF are picked up by the forums and the media. The word is spread and more people take an interest. That's how BB1, BB3 and BB5 became massive successes.

With only 45 minutes of edited footage per day, to document the activities of 16 housemates over a 24 hour period, it's obvious that all viewers will see is a tiny fraction of what's actually been happening. It will be impossible to get to know most, if not all, of the HMs. Interest will wane within two weeks. After a month the viewing figures will be lower than they've ever been. By the six week mark it will be obvious the show is dead without the LF, but the producers will just start chucking more and more people in the house and coming up with ever more ludicrous twists.

It's a shame that a once great show has been reduced to this travesty.

[Wildcat!]

Like you said its gonna be very soap opera like. This past CBB, it seemed the housemates even knew, when the show was live. Tommy said it a couple of times. SO they just have them do whtever they want, until they are live and they start acting all phony. Its very easy to be phony for a few hours a day. NOt so much 24/7.