[kisywisy]

Originally posted by LoopyLinks
I have at last found a site where you can say how you feel without getting comments removed (I hope)! My biggest problem with BB this year is their official site. I have had a few comments removed because they were "off topic" according to "No-reply" emails. None of my posts were "off-topic"!

One of my posts was under Charlies profile saying how I felt he was bullying Rodrigo, but because Rodrigo liked him, he couldn't see it. And that was why he was trying to laugh it off, but when Charlie and Kris took it too far he got frustrated and angry! How is that "off topic"? I was talking about Charlie.

The next post that got removed was to the news item of Kris and Co discussing Halfwit and nominations! A lot of people mentioned something that Karly said in live feed that wasn't shown. About Kris and Charlie getting nominated for stealing drink! Like it was code that if it was one of them against Halfwit then Halfwit would surely go! I commented on this, but it got removed too! I was totally "IN TOPIC"!

That was just tonight! I got a load of posts not posted on Friday too! The main one that really pee'd me off was one I posted under Sree saying he wasn't so innocent and that people should look up Sree in Youtube. That wasn't allowed, but yet another poster was able post actual link, and in same night it was shown on BBBM anyway!

Sorry for this being so long, but its my first post here, and I am extremely frustrated by BB treatment of some of the housemates and most of its fans!

hey!! welcome!!

i had the same problem. 2/3 of my posts were removed for being 'off topic' when they were totally IN topic!! that's when i came here!!

the officail BB facebook and bebo are terrible too. facebook hasn't had anything posted by the show since BEFORE it started!!

it's just pathetic

i'm loving the show though, just the people behind it that annoy me

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by kisywisy

hey!! welcome!!

i had the same problem. 2/3 of my posts were removed for being 'off topic' when they were totally IN topic!! that's when i came here!!

the officail BB facebook and bebo are terrible too. facebook hasn't had anything posted by the show since BEFORE it started!!

it's just pathetic

i'm loving the show though, just the people behind it that annoy me

i agree but do you think the poor Hm's are at fault too?

[tonybeyondo]

I agree that the loss of the LF is inexcusable. But in defense of BB, the show lives and dies on the strength of the HMs. BB can give them things to do, yes, but in the end it really is the HMs that provide the content.

The 1st 30 days is up... We now know the HMs reasonably well- BB is taking note, and will twist things up with a new HM or two very soon. Also, IMO tasks and secret missions are always plotted and specifically tailored to fit the personalities of the HMs- they will get better as the series goes on.

I believe in BB10! BB- don't let us down!

[Patrick]

People who say BB Is coming to an end need a slap


Live feed will be back next year, and no doubt for BB11 They`ll give it there all to see if its time to go or not, I just think they should do a 2 year break after BB11, and possibly bring BB12 To another more popular channel who accually care for it than 4

[LoopyLinks]

Originally posted by arsenalforever

i agree but do you think the poor Hm's are at fault too?

Thanks for the welcome Kisywisy!

And yes arsenalforever I agree, new housemates are desperately needed! But at this stage one is not enough! They need to get a few in there to shake things up! People who have been watching and can call Kris and the gang out on their bullying techniques!

But I still have to go back to my original post! The first couple of weeks of the show everywhere you looked on the "Official site" people were giving out about the fact that you didn't have live feed. In no thread was that the topic as far as I could see. But yet I was being accused of being off topic in threads where I was clearly On Topic!

Sorry, I will eventually get over this... It is just really aggravating me at the moment!

Along with everything else about the show! I can kind of understand the live feed part. The world is in a recession, so they can't afford the lawyers to make sure what they show is PC and cant offend anyone etc. Plus they say ratings have been down. But in answer to both of those comments, which I might add, channel 4 themselves have said are the reasons for no live feed during the day. Who needs a lawyer during the night when they are all sleeping? And with the recession, there are a lot more unemployed people out there that would watch live during the day and bring ratings up! But maybe that is what they are afraid of! Too many people seeing too much, and being able think for themselves what would be more important to see in the main show! It is so obvious that we are missing out on soooo much! Even their site isn't up to date! And they only show you what will be shown on main show anyway!

[arsenalforever]

Loopylinks welcome and its the best reply i read so far on here

[shazzyshaz]

I think the reason there is no live feed this year is so they can control the voting public more than the housemates, they have turned it and now we are the experiment, see how we vote on what they show?? Just a thought!! So your posts may have deterred what they want the public to have in their minds if you know what I mean

[LoopyLinks]

Originally posted by arsenalforever
Loopylinks welcome and its the best reply i read so far on here

Cheers arsenalforever!

I am from Ireland and for the last year or so I haven't had satellite TV. But at christmas I was told about 4OD and got to watch a lot of Celeb BB online. But at the time I had cr@p internet connection so watched it with either sound or picture, rarely had both together. As summer approached I was very tempted to get Sky in, even tho I had Free-to-view sattelite in a box ready to be installed! But I had heard that you couldn't get channel 4 on that, so I wasn't in a big rush to install it! 2 days into BB10 my dad offered to install it out of the blue, and I found out that CH4 was now available too! I was in my element! As 4OD wouldn't show it outside England! I even tried looking up Youtube, and most clips I couldn't watch. I kept getting message up saying that I was not in the right country to watch (or something to that affect). I never got that on youtube before!

And they wonder why ratings are bad! Anyway, I am stubborn, and I will watch it to the end (always hoping it will improve). But I will not be using their site again!

[LoopyLinks]

Originally posted by shazzyshaz
I think the reason there is no live feed this year is so they can control the voting public more than the housemates, they have turned it and now we are the experiment, see how we vote on what they show?? Just a thought!! So your posts may have deterred what they want the public to have in their minds if you know what I mean

I know what you are saying Shazzyshaz, but it is a few years since I was in the position to watch Live Feed, and when I did, the main show didn't show a lot of what I saw. And the voting did show that people didn't see the live show! I think it was BB7! I never understood people complaining about editing before that! I figured if you said something, you said it! They cant manufacture it! But they could and they did! They were able to edit things to make certain people look bad! So whether they have live feed or not, really doesn't matter. Not everyone will see it anyway!

[DiamondDogTags]

The worst for me is the stopping of arguments, so lame, stupid dennis had to go and ruin it last year. Marcus was right about them only calling him in 'cause he was bigger, if they are going to pull anyone in it should be the one who started the argument.

[shazzyshaz]

I only ever watched lived feed when it was on channel 4, but you got a feel for the people and how they were, where as now you only get to see what BB want you to see, plus their main site doesnt allow any interaction, in fact its hard work so gave up with it, but I think its way they edit it, some things that happen can be taken out of context from they way that it actually built up to and happend, I have seen things live then seen them in the HL show and thought well that was not really what that person meant, all of my friends and family refuse to watch it so never have anyone to talk to about it, but I love to just see how other people behave, think and interact, its a great learning curve

[fitz2k2]

all i know if freddie gone in big brother,bb is done

[shazzyshaz]

there is a few things about Freddie that I like, one he always says things to peoples faces regardless of the fact that he knows no one likes him and when he speaks he looks them in the eye, I have noticed that wolferine rarely looks people in the eye when he speaks which I think is dodgy... I feel a little sorry for him acutally because people that have had that private school background are different, they dont have that close relationship with family like most people and I know that is one thing that I cant relate to being a common person, but I still respect how he holds his head high regardless of how he is being bullied and treated, bless him

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by HalfwitFTW
-editing out things like lisa, sophie and karly talking about nominations
- not listening to the public complaints about freddie's bullying, or sree's dyslexia comment
- rubbish tasks this year
- showing double standards when they made a big deal about what marcus said to sree, but they say nothing about kris and co. mimicking Freddie's accent
- breaking up every argument making for less interesting tv

what else pishes you off about big brother?

i was finding it hard to put my finger on why i actually find it lack lustre and the only conclusion i could draw is from the first series it felt like this show was made for the public and we were very much in control of who goes in,what we see and what happens in general..however and i speak for myself only when i say this,but my trust in the show has faded..

where in the past you could simply watch the show and find it an interesting social experiment and not question what you had seen now the contrast is i cant just sit back and enjoy,im having to think "is that true?has that been edited to manipulate me" and so im not seeing enough to make an informed decision on anything anymore..

all the gratuitous nudity has gone (while as the first series it was just real and whatever happened happened)not that im suggesting i crave constant titillation (but more to the point in the first series randomness like a housemate waxing while some may find distasteful,it was atleast real..

this series as with the last few years things have seem more forced,and you wait a year to see who's in the house only to then watch people not being real and pretty much knowing what type of media coverage they will be recieving..so with the live feed gone i am to trust the editors to show me whats real?or show me what they want me to see and think what they want me to think?

i think things are indeed going to have to change if there is going to be any hope for more support to be given to this show by the viewing public..

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by DiamondDogTags
The worst for me is the stopping of arguments, so lame, stupid dennis had to go and ruin it last year. Marcus was right about them only calling him in 'cause he was bigger, if they are going to pull anyone in it should be the one who started the argument.

marcus was the one who started the arguemnt that day when he goaded sree with "cmon son keep up" and for whatever reason was not in the best of moods to begin with

[shazzyshaz]

I have to say that arguments are generally a way of clearing the air and learning about each other in the process, I think that arguments are healthy as long as they dont get violent, and everybody says things in arguments that they dont mean, I have told my son I am gonna kill ya, dont mean I would ever touch him physically or actually kill him, its just a normal way of letting out steam, I think all arguments can be taken out of context in general but more so when they are on BB because it will be anyalysed left right and centre, I think the more we complain about situations that happen daily in civiliastion on a daily basis, the more likely you will no longer have to worry about BB because they will just stop it

[tintedshadow]

true things do get said in the heat of the moment but that would not excuse someone for saying anything racist or threatening as in general arguements are trivial in nature.. but saying that to your son must have put him in his place i am sure lolll although i would have just embraced my mum in the past and she would always forgive me,my dad would get angry and want to put spices in my mouth (as it was a predominantly asian household) and my mum was the one who felt sorry for me and gave me spoonfuls of sugar when he wasnt looking

[DiamondDogTags]

Originally posted by tintedshadow

marcus was the one who started the arguemnt that day when he goaded sree with "cmon son keep up" and for whatever reason was not in the best of moods to begin with

For me I think Marcus started with the 13x13 thing so in that aspect i think your right, but stirrer Sree had to bang on about it and bring it up to Lisa, and thus starting it again. Instead of calling a person to the diary room they should've said would Sree go into the living room and will Marcus go into the bedroom, so then they wouldn't have had the aftermath of "i will call the cops and he will eat dogfood for the rest of his life" but that was funny lol is it low that i laughed? It jsut grates me that when a HM gets called into the diary room the ones that didnt get called in act so smug like they've won. (Maxwell clapping at Roberto over the pasta etc.)

[tintedshadow]

naah not at all low,im half asian and i couldnt help but laugh when he mentioned the prison thing.. yeh i see your point but most on this forum seem to think sree was saying marcus was racist towards him by immitating his accent?when he's said he has people joking about it all the time and its fine,his issue was more for the fact he was called by siavash to do the shopping calculations so he went in,to which marcus started getting all prissy about and then sree felt marcus was insulting his ability to speak so he said if you came to india i doubt you could speak better than i do,which was imo a fair point..

but sree did get called to the diary room too didnt he?although when marcus got called in,sree all of a sudden discoverd some back bone which was admitedly fairly immature of him..

[shazzyshaz]

lol, great mum then, me and my son have a great close relationship, I am really lucky to have the greatest son on this planet, maybe I am biased lol... but arguments are a normal part of life but because everything on BB is so public its over analysed and people see things in arguments that they dont really mean, unless their name is Charley from the last series lol, but I would never excuse racial or social racialism or any kind of abuse against a person for something they cant help, but I dont really beleive there has been any so far on this BB, do you? I did have a little twinge on the Dyslexia thing, but normally by the age they are on BB they should be able to cope with that and have a quick quitted answer to counteract it, we all had things we were picked on at school for at some point

[krystals]

this year is crap end of boring hms crap tasks that we dont get to see proper no LIVE FEED ch4 have killed bb this year i think this will be the end of bb

[HalfwitFTW]

Originally posted by tintedshadow

i was finding it hard to put my finger on why i actually find it lack lustre and the only conclusion i could draw is from the first series it felt like this show was made for the public and we were very much in control of who goes in,what we see and what happens in general..however and i speak for myself only when i say this,but my trust in the show has faded..

where in the past you could simply watch the show and find it an interesting social experiment and not question what you had seen now the contrast is i cant just sit back and enjoy,im having to think "is that true?has that been edited to manipulate me" and so im not seeing enough to make an informed decision on anything anymore..

all the gratuitous nudity has gone (while as the first series it was just real and whatever happened happened)not that im suggesting i crave constant titillation (but more to the point in the first series randomness like a housemate waxing while some may find distasteful,it was atleast real..

this series as with the last few years things have seem more forced,and you wait a year to see who's in the house only to then watch people not being real and pretty much knowing what type of media coverage they will be recieving..so with the live feed gone i am to trust the editors to show me whats real?or show me what they want me to see and think what they want me to think?

i think things are indeed going to have to change if there is going to be any hope for more support to be given to this show by the viewing public..

I agree.

It is all so contrived and SET-UP now, that plus the editing and lack of live feed, and you feel as a viewer you are being manipulated and lied-to which is a bit of mind-******. Bring back the simpler days of Craig, Brian Dowling, Helen and Paul. At least we knew it was all REAL back then.

[cleaner67]

The main thing cheeseing me off is lack of no live feed

[vesavius]

Originally posted by tonybeyondo
I agree that the loss of the LF is inexcusable. But in defense of BB, the show lives and dies on the strength of the HMs.

I dont really agree on this... I think it's all about the tasks myself. Even great HMs can't shine if the tasks are crap.

[vesavius]

Originally posted by fitz2k2
all i know if freddie gone in big brother,bb is done

Oh please... everyone kept arguing with me about this about BB being 'dead' if Sree went and Sree 'being the show', but that obviously hasnt happened.

BB Is no more Freddie then Sree. Take any individual out and others fill the vacuum fast... And we even have new HMs to go in yet.

I wish Chickien Littles would stop declaring BB 'dead' if this or that HM goes.