[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

More money for people to extort from the estate.

I mean in theory they could just give them the money from these sales since it wouldn't have been generated without them. Win/win?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I mean in theory they could just give them the money from these sales since it wouldn't have been generated without them. Win/win?

Yep,easy money ,they knew that.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

All publicity is good publicity, as the saying goes .

Was always going to happen....his die hard fans were always going to show their support this way

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

His albums are apparently climbing up the charts ,
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainm...cid=spartanntp

Thankfully he's dead so can't personally gain

[Tony Montana]

I don't know if this has been posted already (I can't be bothered to go back to previous pages) but his sister La Toya even called him a ''paedophile'' in an interview from the 90s. She later retracted it


https://inews.co.uk/culture/televisi...d-allegations/

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Tony Montana

I don't know if this has been posted already (I can't be bothered to go back to previous pages) but his sister La Toya even called him a ''paedophile'' in an interview from the 90s. She later retracted it


https://inews.co.uk/culture/televisi...d-allegations/

Yes it's old news Tony,I don't think she knows her arse from her elbow,lol

She later claimed that she made the 1993 allegations because her then husband Jack Gordon forced her to and she took back everything she'd said. so I don't think she is very creditable either.She also said he was murdered and contacted him from beyond the grave,lol. daft woman

[Tony Montana]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes it's old news Tony,I don't think she knows her arse from her elbow,lol

She later claimed that she made the 1993 allegations because her then husband Jack Gordon forced her to and she took back everything she'd said. so I don't think she is very creditable either.

Thank you Kazanne, I figured it may have been discussed already on here, but i didn't have the time to go all the way back to previous pages. I'd only just read about it today

Seems bizarre that her Husband would force her to do something like that

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Tony Montana

Seems bizarre that her Husband would force her to do something like that

Indeed. what on earth would it gain her husband..

Just another weird thing in the case tbh.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Tony Montana

Thank you Kazanne, I figured it may have been discussed already on here, but i didn't have the time to go all the way back to previous pages. I'd only just read about it today

Seems bizarre that her Husband would force her to do something like that

Every chance it was pressure from the family, she said in an interview his Mother tried to cover up stuff

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes it's old news Tony,I don't think she knows her arse from her elbow,lol

She later claimed that she made the 1993 allegations because her then husband Jack Gordon forced her to and she took back everything she'd said. so I don't think she is very creditable either.She also said he was murdered and contacted him from beyond the grave,lol. daft woman

I reckon if MJ had come out himself and admitted it you'd probably say he was coerced or something Kaz

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I reckon if MJ had come out himself and admitted it you'd probably say he was coerced or something Kaz

I just wonder where the "pivot point" is. I mean, there's no physical evidence against Saville either but admittedly there are far more accusors and no one has trouble believing that he's guilty. But how many would be "enough" for Jackson? 10? 20? 50? I sort of feel like a hundred people could come forward with claims and every single one would be dubbed "lies for money".

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I just wonder where the "pivot point" is. I mean, there's no physical evidence against Saville either but admittedly there are far more accusors and no one has trouble believing that he's guilty. But how many would be "enough" for Jackson? 10? 20? 50? I sort of feel like a hundred people could come forward with claims and every single one would be dubbed "lies for money".

If this had been Meatloaf he would have been guilty as sin on page one by all members

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I just wonder where the "pivot point" is. I mean, there's no physical evidence against Saville either but admittedly there are far more accusors and no one has trouble believing that he's guilty. But how many would be "enough" for Jackson? 10? 20? 50? I sort of feel like a hundred people could come forward with claims and every single one would be dubbed "lies for money".

I wonder if McCauley Culkin came out and said actually MJ did abuse me what people would say? I suspect that it would be because he was trying to raise his profile, get money etc.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I just wonder where the "pivot point" is. I mean, there's no physical evidence against Saville either but admittedly there are far more accusors and no one has trouble believing that he's guilty. But how many would be "enough" for Jackson? 10? 20? 50? I sort of feel like a hundred people could come forward with claims and every single one would be dubbed "lies for money".

Wasn't there audio tapes of Saville talking about some of the stuff he'de done plus a lot of his was witnessed by adults in the business and was there any attempt to extort money from him , and did the victims defend him then change their minds

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I just wonder where the "pivot point" is. I mean, there's no physical evidence against Saville either but admittedly there are far more accusors and no one has trouble believing that he's guilty. But how many would be "enough" for Jackson? 10? 20? 50? I sort of feel like a hundred people could come forward with claims and every single one would be dubbed "lies for money".

Uncalled for as well....2 members discussing another member....I don't think Kaz has ever said he ain't guilty, but more she is reluctant to believe these to guys...


This ain't the first time in this thread either.....leave it out.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I reckon if MJ had come out himself and admitted it you'd probably say he was coerced or something Kaz

We'll never know

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I reckon if MJ had come out himself and admitted it you'd probably say he was coerced or something Kaz

That's really uncalled for imo....no need to rubbish people's opinions or vieWS on a subject..the man has been found not guilty after all. ..really not nice at all.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by parmnion

That's really uncalled for imo....no need to rubbish people's opinions or vieWS on a subject..the man has been found not guilty after all. ..really not nice at all.

Thankyou Parmy, I'm used to it now,I know my opinions are strong but that's how I feel just like people opinions are strong the other way. I will never agree to anything I don't believe in just to appease people.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

That's really uncalled for imo....no need to rubbish people's opinions or vieWS on a subject..the man has been found not guilty after all. ..really not nice at all.

Oh fgs it was a joke and I wasn't discussing other members I was actually talking to her

[Crimson Dynamo]

When Kaz told me last year she was doing some freelance PR for The Jacksons I stupidly thought of Glenda

Now its all falling into place...

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

When Kaz told me last year she was doing some freelance PR for The Jacksons I stupidly thought of Glenda

Now its all falling into place...

Good work if you can get it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Good work if you can get it

you certainly cant Beat it

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

you certainly cant Beat it

It can be a Thriller sometimes

[iRyan]

What a headache this thread has become

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by iRyan

What a headache this thread has become

why what did you want a thread about child rape to be about?