[arista]

4 MP's

[Crimson Dynamo]

even if its only Nigel

what a night

[UserSince2005]

i vote for reform so they can kick labour and tory mps in the c'nt

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

i vote for reform so they can kick labour and tory mps in the c'nt

not sure that is official policy

[MTVN]

I don't think they'll actually get that

[Mystic Mock]

Reform's overall public vote is looking sharp so far.

[Nicky91]

4 seats


that's a decent beginning for Reform i guess, now need to make sure you don't lose that popularity, but gain more popularity, unlike forum for democracy party in my nation (whom also had a few seats at first but now nothing anymore after vilifying themselves a lot in the eyes of the public)

[user104658]

All that performance and bluster for 4 seats. Lol.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

All that performance and bluster for 4 seats. Lol.

It only needed one.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

It only needed one.

is that the new official line?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

is that the new official line?

He will be stammers downfall.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

He will be stammers downfall.

Messiah-Farage? Well I'm certainly here for this Poundland Messiah-Trump story arc, maybe @ me when it happens in case I miss these dramatic scenes.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by parmnion

He will be stammers downfall.

I think that Starmer will be smart, and not get dragged into drama with Farage.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

All that performance and bluster for 4 seats. Lol.

Nigel achieved in 5 weeks what it took the SNP 22 years to achieve

so put your sneering snobbery aside and accept the huge success Reform UK have achieved

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Nigel achieved in 5 weeks what it took the SNP 22 years to achieve

so put your sneering snobbery aside and accept the huge success Reform UK have achieved

5 weeks! He's been trying since 1998 don't be daft . Same old rhetoric with a face-lift, that was guaranteed to resonate in 2024 given the general state of politics.

[Crimson Dynamo]

LIVE: Reform MPs Nigel Farage, Richard Tice, Lee Anderson & Rupert Lowe on
the political earthquake.

14:30

Youtube video

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

All that performance and bluster for 4 seats. Lol.

Tbf, for a reasonably new party it's not the worst showing.

Especially considering how corrupt our voting system is towards our two main parties.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf, for a reasonably new party it's not the worst showing.

Especially considering how corrupt our voting system is towards our two main parties.

UKIP 3.0 is not new.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

UKIP 3.0 is not new.

Is UKIP even still around as a party?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Is UKIP even still around as a party?

Yes it's called "Reform" you might have heard of them. AKA also, "The Brexit Party".

[bots]

i don't see farage liking parliament, it's too mainstream for him

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i don't see farage liking parliament, it's too mainstream for him

When he has to be a rank-and-file MP instead of an agitator . Feel bad for his constituents - he'll be waaay more interested in continuing to flap his gums about national issues, press attention and trolling the rest of parliament, than he will in getting on with the job of being a local MP putting his energy into representing a small area. It's just not his MO.

[user104658]

Honestly I naively thought that everyone actually knew that Reform is the same cat in a different hat, but apparently people think it's actually new?

Like... It's "new" in the same way that that wee "Morrison's Local" on your high street that used to be a "Spar", and before that a "Nisa" is new. Except that it's the same shop with a new sign outside and a couple of different products. Bob still stacking the shelves, Old Sue still staffing the checkouts.

[Beso]

@Soldier Boy

The lib dems gained a record number of seats. The change wasn't all about farage.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

@Soldier Boy

The lib dems gained a record number of seats. The change wasn't all about farage.

Nothing has meaningfully changed though, the Tories have simply gotten themselves into a farcical and unelectable rut, so their voters have scattered. The more "further right" ones to Reform, the more "central" ones to Labour and Lib Dem, and the working class cohort they'd duped for a decade to a mix of Reform and Labour depending on which paper they were reading - i.e. the same reason they were previously voting Tory.

What will happen though, is that the Tories will be gutted & cleaned and rebrand as "the good old Tories you remember!" and their vote share will jump right back up. I don't see anything at all representing meaningful or lasting change. A tonne of those Reform voters will flip back simply because they believed Reform was a new big player, and have found out otherwise. 4 seats might be unexpected, people who follow politics might realise it's more than what a party like that might usually expect... but the dumb right-leaning TikTok kids who thought Farage had a shot at No. 10 are going to be saying "...4 seats? " and they'll probably go Tory next time as a more "realistic" option.

Though as I said earlier I also think we're going to start seeing increasing numbers of charismatic and/or single-issue Independents actually getting seats.