[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

BB3 was on during the world cup and thats the highest rated series to date.

Im not comparing Channel 5 viewers to how they were back in the day because i know that we are never going to see massive viewing figures anymore but the whole euro argument is just not valid imo.

What was last years excuse?

Ratings have been so low in the last week that im afraid the series average is gonna be down on last year which doesnt look good when it comes to renewing the classic BB next year.

The 1st 2 weeks officials were realy impressive with the show almost averaging 2 million but week 3's officials highlights are getting about 1.4/1.5 mostly. BB12's 3rd weeks episodes mostly got 1.6.

Plus last nights episode was sub 1 million without +1

Big Brother, airing earlier at 9pm, drew 975k (4.5%) for Channel 5 and 132k (0.7%) on +1

I dont know where you got 1.27 from when its 1.1 roughly and i also dont know where you got the 184K for +1 figure?

This isnt me being down on the ratings for the sake of it, im just stating the facts and not sugar coating things.

That was Saturdays figure. With +1 it was 1.1m. And I have had a look at the Barb just now of Week 3, episodes were getting 1.6-1.8m, with almost 1.9m for some of them.

[Jake.]

Good news for week 3 by the sounds of it then!

[Omah]

Surely, with all the time-shift and on-demand programming available, overnights are only indicative - over the days following a major event, people play catch-up and the "officials" reflect the "true" viewing figures, which for ITV and BBC, could, presumably, be enhanced enormously and, for the lesser channels, hardly at all (numerically) .....

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by Omah

Surely, with all the time-shift and on-demand programming available, overnights are only indicative - over the days following a major event, people play catch-up and the "officials" reflect the "true" viewing figures, which for ITV and BBC, could, presumably, be enhanced enormously and, for the lesser channels, hardly at all (numerically) .....

Exactly, so far the average officially stands at around 1.8m, which is 200k up on BB12.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

That was Saturdays figure. With +1 it was 1.1m. And I have had a look at the Barb just now of Week 3, episodes were getting 1.6-1.8m, with almost 1.9m for some of them.

You haven't responded to any of my other points and i was actually interested what you thought.

Week 3's eviction was 1.85 but most of the other ratings were 1.4/1.5 officially compared to the weeks before getting mostly 1.7/1.8. Last week only 1 episode dropped below 1.7 million.

Source:

[Patrick]

So far - is BB13 doing better than BB12 then?

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Ratings have been so low in the last week that im afraid the series average is gonna be down on last year which doesnt look good when it comes to renewing the classic BB next year.

Classic BB has been renewed for another 2 years, don't worry.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Classic BB has been renewed for another 2 years, don't worry.

How do you know that?

All i read was that BB has been renewed but that doesnt mean they could just do a celeb series instead as its the same contract.

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

You haven't responded to any of my other points and i was actually interested what you thought.

Week 3's eviction was 1.85 but most of the other ratings were 1.4/1.5 officially compared to the weeks before getting mostly 1.7/1.8. Last week only 1 episode dropped below 1.7 million.

Source:

Attachment 2073

That was wrong. It's been removed already because that week was actually the week that just went... (the 1.85 was down as Lydia's eviction), when that was just Friday. It's been deleted already. Those were all fake ones. We don't even know the week before's full ones yet. Look up on BARB it's a whole different story, the Friday for BENEDICTS eviction was lower than the 1.85m, but the weekday ratings are much higher than what Wiki displayed. I'm waiting up on the DS ratings experts to update us.

And yes Patrick, so far the series average is 1.89m compared to BB12's 1.6m.

Scroll down to the channels Channel 5 and Channel 5+1. They are different to what was shown on Wiki.

http://www.barb.co.uk/report/weekly-top-programmes

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

That was wrong. It's been removed already because that week was actually the week that just went... (the 1.85 was down as Lydia's eviction), when that was just Friday. It's been deleted already. Those were all fake ones. We don't even know the week before's full ones yet. Look up on BARB it's a whole different story, the Friday for BENEDICTS eviction was lower than the 1.85m, but the weekday ratings are much higher than what Wiki displayed. I'm waiting up on the DS ratings experts to update us.

And yes Patrick, so far the series average is 1.89m compared to BB12's 1.6m.

WTF?!

How was that deleted in the last 5 minutes?

Do you update the wiki page or something? LOL

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

WTF?!

How was that deleted in the last 5 minutes?

Do you update the wiki page or something? LOL

They delete them themselves if they are not accurate. Just like when I jokingly put some random stuff to Justin Beiber's wiki page, it was deleted in 7 mins I recall.

Look up at the link I sent you. It's completely different to the Wiki one.

http://www.barb.co.uk/report/weekly-top-programmes

It shows Thursday on Channel 5 alone got 1.8m (not including the +1), the DS experts will know what the rest of the ratings will be.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

They delete them themselves if they are not accurate. Just like when I jokingly put some random stuff to Justin Beiber's wiki page, it was deleted in 7 mins I recall.

Look up at the link I sent you. It's completely different to the Wiki one.

Thats been there for days though and was only deleted when i posted it here?

Strange.

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Thats been there for days though and was only deleted when i posted it here?

Strange.

Maybe from DS. I emailed someone on there saying that they were not like the ones I saw on BARB. And yeah exactly "it's been there for days". The Friday displayed was Lydia's eviction, they seemed to have seen into the future if you look carefully. It was the 4th column of the table, and that rating was shown on the Friday. There's been 4 evictions... so if it's been there for days, someone put the rating there before Lydia was even evicted....

[Pronshi]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

Maybe from DS. I emailed someone on there saying that they were not like the ones I saw on BARB. And yeah exactly "it's been there for days". The Friday displayed was Lydia's eviction, they seemed to have seen into the future if you look carefully. It was the 4th column of the table, and that rating was shown on the Friday. There's been 4 evictions... so if it's been there for days, someone put the rating there before Lydia was even evicted....

So okay I'm a lurker and I am all over DS and TIBB with ratings.
I can fully back Salv up on this, the ratings are far better than what some think.
The wikipedia thing must have being someone just putting anything in.
I bet a week after BB13 is completely over, the official ratings for the series will be epic. BB is holding up quite well this year compared to BB12.

[Jarrod]

Can someone post the official ratings please?

[Urban Cragou]

Originally Posted by jarroddaniel1

Can someone post the official ratings please?

IIRC, you have to wait a week for those to be released and you get them from BARB.

[Jarrod]

Originally Posted by Redway

IIRC, you have to wait a week for those to be released and you get them from BARB.

I mean the previous weeks.

[Urban Cragou]

Originally Posted by jarroddaniel1

I mean the previous weeks.

You'll have to go to BARB for that. Here's the link to it and go to Channel 5 http://www.barb.co.uk/index/index

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

BB3 was on during the world cup and thats the highest rated series to date.

Im not comparing Channel 5 viewers to how they were back in the day because i know that we are never going to see massive viewing figures anymore but the whole euro argument is just not valid imo.

What was last years excuse?

Ratings have been so low in the last week that im afraid the series average is gonna be down on last year which doesnt look good when it comes to renewing the classic BB next year.

The 1st 2 weeks officials were realy impressive with the show almost averaging 2 million but week 3's officials highlights are getting about 1.4/1.5 mostly. BB12's 3rd weeks episodes mostly got 1.6.

Plus last nights episode was sub 1 million without +1

Big Brother, airing earlier at 9pm, drew 975k (4.5%) for Channel 5 and 132k (0.7%) on +1

I dont know where you got 1.27 from when its 1.1 roughly and i also dont know where you got the 184K for +1 figure?

This isnt me being down on the ratings for the sake of it, im just stating the facts and not sugar coating things.

That's a very weak argument, I'm afraid to say. I would expect someone who's very vocal about the ratings to know that all television has gone down in years. Not 7 years ago EastEnders, for example, logged between 9 and 12 million viewers, a 45-55% share of the entire audience. Since about 2008 it's been down to about 7-9 million viewers, 30-40% of the entire audience.

True, you're posting facts but you can't just post raw data and get a meaningful conclusion - they're a lot more complicated than that...

And, yeah, Euro 2012 did affect everything on television. Are you telling me that a show on Channel 5 - or anywhere, in fact - could fare against 23 million viewers? Is that what you're saying?

G'wan with your ridiculous and ill thought-out logic that falls like a stack of cards whenever anyone who actually knows anything about ratings quotes you. I've said my peace.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Redway

You'll have to go to BARB for that. Here's the link to it and go to Channel 5 http://www.barb.co.uk/index/index


That's a very weak argument, I'm afraid to say. I would expect someone who's very vocal about the ratings to know that all television has gone down in years. Not 7 years ago EastEnders, for example, logged between 9 and 12 million viewers, a 45-55% share of the entire audience. Since about 2008 it's been down to about 7-9 million viewers, 30-40% of the entire audience.

True, you're posting facts but you can't just post raw data and get a meaningful conclusion - they're a lot more complicated than that...

And, yeah, Euro 2012 did affect everything on television. Are you telling me that a show on Channel 5 - or anywhere, in fact - could fare against 23 million viewers? Is that what you're saying?

G'wan with your ridiculous and ill thought-out logic that falls like a stack of cards whenever anyone who actually knows anything about ratings quotes you. I've said my peace.

I disagree.

[Urban Cragou]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

I disagree.

...Care to elaborate?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Redway

...Care to elaborate?

Not really no.

When you speak to me in an appropriate manner then yes maybe but right now nah.

[Urban Cragou]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Not really no.

When you speak to me in an appropriate manner then yes maybe but right now nah.

Actually, I did talk to you in an appropriate manner, otherwise my post would have been deleted for starters.

No matter what I do, we can't change the fact thar your argument was ridiculous and untrue. I then went on to say that your ideas were ill-informed and that you were ill-informed, which basically suggests you get your facts right before engaging in such a discussion as this. I believe all this falls under the category of 'acceptable forum behaviour'.

What is the point of even posting on a forum if you don't want people to challenge what you say? If you can't handle it why post?

Point me to where it says pointing out the flaws to someone's weak argument is not appropriate.

[*mazedsalv**]

1.38m for last night

Not as high as I wanted, but it's climbing which is always a good sign. The task started today and it's a 7 day task. This could maybe boost then, dunnnoo.

[BB IS ALIVE]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

1.38m for last night

Not as high as I wanted, but it's climbing which is always a good sign. The task started today and it's a 7 day task. This could maybe boost then, dunnnoo.

Is that including +1?

Even if it is, thats pretty much 1.4, a rise on last weeks monday?

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by BB IS ALIVE

Is that including +1?

Even if it is, thats pretty much 1.4, a rise on last weeks monday?

Yeah it's a rise, last Monday got 1.18m incl +1, so 200k up on that.