[Niamh.]

Well, I can assure you I have no interest in their arses But If I was in Karissas situation I really wouldn't like someone to do that to me either. I would feel violated, whether she did it as a joke or not, I know I wouldn't be laughing. Yes she was OTT when she spoke about getting her lawyers involved but she was angry.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, I can assure you I have no interest in their arses But If I was in Karissas situation I really wouldn't like someone to do that to me either. I would feel violated, whether she did it as a joke or not, I know I wouldn't be laughing. Yes she was OTT when she spoke about getting her lawyers involved but she was angry.

Oh that was definately silly talk, it was a few things I think. First having made their name as nude models they are probably bored to death of being treated like trash and having people like frankie openly perving over them. Second they come from a very litigious culture where thats seen as normal, and third they were themselves drunk and overreacted a bit. This was obvious as later she calmed down and returned to the house...

[MTVN]

I don't understand why people can't tell the difference between voluntarily flaunting their own body as part of a professional photoshoot, and having their trousers yanked down by a 50 year old drunk. Just because they're comfortable with the former doesn't mean it's suddenly acceptable to do the latter.

[RodHull]

Exactly, like I say its tantamount to saying that all prostitutes are fair game for rape. Basically people dont like the twins cause they are super confident, American and are a bit up themselves. This then means people are excusing behaviour towards them that is not acceptable at all.

Would the public have been cool if Denise had yanked down Georgias trousers? I dont think so personally. I also dont think Denise would have done it, she views the twins as *****s, she more or less said as much in that argument to excuse her behaviour. That was what got me in the whole thing.

Strip away the stupid secondary argument about letters (cheap shot imo) and Frankie doing his best to stoke it up (even admitted he was doing it deliberately) Remove the drama bomb that went off and just analyse what she did (Denise) and I cant believe anyone thinks thats acceptable. Specially from a 53 year old mother...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I don't understand why people can't tell the difference between voluntarily flaunting their own body as part of a professional photoshoot, and having their trousers yanked down by a 50 year old drunk. Just because they're comfortable with the former doesn't mean it's suddenly acceptable to do the latter.

I couldn't have put it better.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by RodHull

Exactly, like I say its tantamount to saying that all prostitutes are fair game for rape. Basically people dont like the twins cause they are super confident, American and are a bit up themselves. This then means people are excusing behaviour towards them that is not acceptable at all.

Would the public have been cool if Denise had yanked down Georgias trousers? I dont think so personally. I also dont think Denise would have done it, she views the twins as *****s, she more or less said as much in that argument to excuse her behaviour. That was what got me in the whole thing.

Strip away the stupid secondary argument about letters (cheap shot imo) and Frankie doing his best to stoke it up (even admitted he was doing it deliberately) Remove the drama bomb that went off and just analyse what she did (Denise) and I cant believe anyone thinks thats acceptable. Specially from a 53 year old mother...

Very true, great post.

[SourMango]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

Totally agree with you Kazanne I saw it as the twins seeing a golden opportunity to gameplay and bring down Denise and Nicola jumped swiftly on the bandwagon.

I concur.

[SourMango]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I don't understand why people can't tell the difference between voluntarily flaunting their own body as part of a professional photoshoot, and having their trousers yanked down by a 50 year old drunk. Just because they're comfortable with the former doesn't mean it's suddenly acceptable to do the latter.

How about comparing showing a bit of arse cheek on a tv show and unintentionally showing a bit of arse cheek on the same tv show?

But making a huge fuss about the second one.

[Marc]

It's not as if it was her boob or her 'pocket of warm love' she needs to calm down

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by SourMango

How about comparing showing a bit of arse cheek on a tv show and unintentionally showing a bit of arse cheek on the same tv show?

But making a huge fuss about the second one.

Yes and your point??

Do you think if Denise had yanked down Georgias trousers that Georgia would have been ok with it?? No she would be a bit humiliated most likely. So why is it different for the twins?

What part of consent dont you understand. However ridiculous and contradictory it might seem to others, the twins have as much right to respect and decency as anyone else in there. Or do you think that women who behave in a certain way professionally are 'asking for it' when treated like trash by others?

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Lets all be honest here and not stick up for someone cos you 'like/fancy' them,who REALLY saw the twins ass?talk about being blown out of proportion it's as bad on here as the twin made it,i watched it and all that happened was Denise tugged her pants,they came down a little(not even to her knees)then it took her a while to think before registering that it would be a good idea to claim she had been violated,i mean really? she had pants on,we all saw a side view of thigh,no more exposure than them walking round the bedroom in skimpy undies or a bikini.Denise should NOT have done it but I'm certain it wasn't done maliciously and come on,no one saw the crack of her ass,but I suppose the ammunition for twin fans was a God send,and as for Nicola,lol,can she spell hypocrite,much.

Great post Kazanne, 100% agree with you.

[Tourmaline]

Well I saw Karissa make a complete ass of herself..does that count?

[pinkpanther]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Lets all be honest here and not stick up for someone cos you 'like/fancy' them,who REALLY saw the twins ass?talk about being blown out of proportion it's as bad on here as the twin made it,i watched it and all that happened was Denise tugged her pants,they came down a little(not even to her knees)then it took her a while to think before registering that it would be a good idea to claim she had been violated,i mean really? she had pants on,we all saw a side view of thigh,no more exposure than them walking round the bedroom in skimpy undies or a bikini.Denise should NOT have done it but I'm certain it wasn't done maliciously and come on,no one saw the crack of her ass,but I suppose the ammunition for twin fans was a God send,and as for Nicola,lol,can she spell hypocrite,much.

THE MOST BORING NIGHT OF THE SHOW. it was a joke. no one saw anything. it was a bunch of idiots all fighting depserately for cheap attention. I see idiots like that every night falling out of chav pubs. they bore me senseless , theyre all the same and all as stupid as each other. the only person who stands out is michael

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by buckfast67uk

Denise is a rancid jealous hag. Pure and simple. Hers and that swamp donkey, Natalie's sycophant fans stick up for them purely because they are ugly and do not feel threatened by them.

Everything about this post fails.

You know that all of Denise and Natalie's fans are ugly? May I ask how?

You've got a lot of anger inside, haven't you? Is school stressful?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by JellyFantastic

Everything about this post fails.

You know that all of Denise and Natalie's fans are ugly? May I ask how?

You've got a lot of anger inside, haven't you? Is school stressful?

just seen that post by buckfast67uk,,isn't it against forum rules to insult posters? or is that just for some

[MTVN]

Sorry it didn't get reported and must have flew under the radar, it's been dealt with now

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Sorry it didn't get reported and must have flew under the radar, it's been dealt with now

No problem MTVN,just being my usual sarcy self,lol

[buckfast67uk]

You're quite right, that was out of order. Get a bit carried away on here at times! Apologies

Originally Posted by kazanne

just seen that post by buckfast67uk,,isn't it against forum rules to insult posters? or is that just for some

[InOne]

Denise and Frankie were by far the worst culprits out of it all. Jealousy and anger fueled them. Horrible people.

[buckfast67uk]

Originally Posted by JellyFantastic

Everything about this post fails.

You know that all of Denise and Natalie's fans are ugly? May I ask how?

You've got a lot of anger inside, haven't you? Is school stressful?

I'm not a teacher and i would have thought my username, might indicate i'm not a student! But the post was a bit over the top and let's be honest, stupid.

[buckfast67uk]

Originally Posted by InOne

Denise and Frankie were by far the worst culprits out of it all. Jealousy and anger fueled them. Horrible people.

I've already said this elsewhere, but Frankie wasn't involved to "stick up for Denise", he was seeking airtime.

He added nothing of value to the argument and to be brutally honest he inflamed the situation. He knows fine well that Karissa and Kistina are repulsed by him and his ego can't take it. He saw an opportunity to get involved, knowing fine well it would make matters worse. But it got him airtime, so job done. Not as dumb as he looks

[InOne]

Originally Posted by buckfast67uk

I've already said this elsewhere, but Frankie wasn't involved to "stick up for Denise", he was seeking airtime.

He added nothing of value to the argument and to be brutally honest he inflamed the situation. He knows fine well that Karissa and Kistina are repulsed by him and his ego can't take it. He saw an opportunity to get involved, knowing fine well it would make matters worse. But it got him airtime, so job done. Not as dumb as he looks

He was there to put the boot in to the twins basically. He even said it when they were in the DR.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by buckfast67uk

You're quite right, that was out of order. Get a bit carried away on here at times! Apologies

Someone accepting that they were wrong and apologising, that's refreshing!

[SourMango]

Originally Posted by RodHull

Yes and your point??

Do you think if Denise had yanked down Georgias trousers that Georgia would have been ok with it?? No she would be a bit humiliated most likely. So why is it different for the twins?

What part of consent dont you understand. However ridiculous and contradictory it might seem to others, the twins have as much right to respect and decency as anyone else in there. Or do you think that women who behave in a certain way professionally are 'asking for it' when treated like trash by others?

My point about consent is that Karissa had already consented to having her arse cheek shown on Big Brother.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by buckfast67uk

I've already said this elsewhere, but Frankie wasn't involved to "stick up for Denise", he was seeking airtime.

He added nothing of value to the argument and to be brutally honest he inflamed the situation. He knows fine well that Karissa and Kistina are repulsed by him and his ego can't take it. He saw an opportunity to get involved, knowing fine well it would make matters worse. But it got him airtime, so job done. Not as dumb as he looks

You can't read Frankies mind,so it's all about what YOU think some of us don't think that way,imo Frankie likes Denise and probably felt sorry for her being ganged up on as he saw it,Frankie said what he thought,i doubt there was any alterior motive,many of you would have us believe he is not 'bright' enough to think of that !! make your minds up