[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

I feel sure you won't be able to guess.

I couldn't possibly guess what you have chosen to be offended at today.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by kizzy

No change on alcohol...tories love a few quiet drinks in the bar....

It will all be subsidised for them anyway...

[InOne]

Thank god for lock-ins

[Kizzy]

You are joking? there is loads of media attention surrounding obesity at the moment...
Child obesity in particular, why are supermarkets promoting these goods in such an aggressive way is a better question than why are people buying them?
Anyhoo its a bit off topic and im off out, ttfn

[InOne]

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Look at the differences!! My god! Only Ireland is worse than us

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by InOne

http://www.day-tripper.net/xzi/xmap2...accoprices.gif

Look at the differences!! My god! Only Ireland is worse than us

Tis ridiculous, apart from Scandinavia France is the only European country where they're over a fiver and here we are putting them up to £7.50

[Smithy]

90p in Ukraine

dodgy cigs thur

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Smithy

90p in Ukraine

dodgy cigs thur

€9.10 here for 20

[Kate!]

Off topic, so apologies. If the Goevernment are so concerned about promoting health issues then why not make fruit a lot cheaper and as someone mentioned raise tax on foodstuffs with no nutritional value. I love fruit and would buy much more if it wasn't so expensive.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by *Kate*

Off topic, so apologies. If the Goevernment are so concerned about promoting health issues then why not make fruit a lot cheaper and as someone mentioned raise tax on foodstuffs with no nutritional value. I love fruit and would buy much more if it wasn't so expensive.

Because they want as much money out of you as possible. They don't actually care about your health.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by InOne

Because they want as much money out of you as possible. They don't actually care about your health.

Spot on

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by InOne

Because they want as much money out of you as possible. They don't actually care about your health.

this

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Spot on

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

this

Because you guys know exactly why the government make all their decisions.
They care for health but they know the inelastic demand and addictive nature of the product means that consumption will not likely decline due to price rises so they may as well tax it rather than legislating an entire ban. That way it is a compromise, smokers can smoke but have to pay for the social costs that they cause. It is a pretty fair deal.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by CharlieO

Because you guys know exactly why the government make all their decisions.
They care for health but they know the inelastic demand and addictive nature of the product means that consumption will not likely decline due to price rises so they may as well tax it rather than legislating an entire ban. That way it is a compromise, smokers can smoke but have to pay for the social costs that they cause. It is a pretty fair deal.

Well we know just as much as you do tbh

'If the Goevernment are so concerned about promoting health issues then why not make fruit a lot cheaper and as someone mentioned raise tax on foodstuffs with no nutritional value. I love fruit and would buy much more if it wasn't so expensive. '

Is what was replied to. If they really did care about health, they would do exactly that. Make healthy food cheaper and junk more expensive. Of course it wouldnt stop everyone eating junk...but it would allow those who WANT to eat healthy to do so...as at the moment its a lot cheaper to buy a giant bag of chicken nuggets and a bag of chips than it is to buy the fresh ingredients for a healthy meal, and thats not right at all.

At the same time we would be cutting NHS bills too. As if more people ate healthy there would be less obesity related illnesses.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by *Kate*

Off topic, so apologies. If the Goevernment are so concerned about promoting health issues then why not make fruit a lot cheaper and as someone mentioned raise tax on foodstuffs with no nutritional value. I love fruit and would buy much more if it wasn't so expensive.

Exactly kate the major companies, coca cola, nestle, want you to stay addicted to their crap so they allow supermarkets to do bogof, and other promotions.
They dont give a rats left testicle for anyones health, they want to make money. And as these are 'luxury' items you pay VAT on them so everyones a winner....except your waistline.
Even a bag of carrots is a quid now, a family sized bag of apples £2 a cauli £1.50....fruit and veg has never been so expensive.
Im seriously looking into growing my own

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Exactly kate the major companies, coca cola, nestle, want you to stay addicted to their crap so they allow supermarkets to do bogof, and other promotions.
They dont give a rats left testicle for anyones health, they want to make money. And as these are 'luxury' items you pay VAT on them so everyones a winner....except your waistline.
Even a bag of carrots is a quid now, a family sized bag of apples £2 a cauli £1.50....fruit and veg has never been so expensive.
Im seriously looking into growing my own

This is why I buy my fruit and veg at the fruiters instead of supermarkets.

We get 2 big bags full of various fruit/veg for a fiver. If we bought the same stuff in morrisons or something it would probably be nearly 20 quid

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

This is why I buy my fruit and veg at the fruiters instead of supermarkets.

We get 2 big bags full of various fruit/veg for a fiver. If we bought the same stuff in morrisons or something it would probably be nearly 20 quid

Our nearest grocers is 5 miles away, but it just shows you how much profit they are making if small independant shops can afford to supply at an affordable price and still make a profit?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Our nearest grocers is 5 miles away, but it just shows you how much profit they are making if small independant shops can afford to supply at an affordable price and still make a profit?

I know. Its ridiculous

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Exactly kate the major companies, coca cola, nestle, want you to stay addicted to their crap so they allow supermarkets to do bogof, and other promotions.
They dont give a rats left testicle for anyones health, they want to make money. And as these are 'luxury' items you pay VAT on them so everyones a winner....except your waistline.
Even a bag of carrots is a quid now, a family sized bag of apples £2 a cauli £1.50....fruit and veg has never been so expensive.
Im seriously looking into growing my own

Prices are rising because consumption is causing aggregate demand in the economy to shift outward at a pace that aggregate supply cannot contend with.
It is our fault the majority of prices are rising, we are consuming too much.

Oh and btw coca cola, nestle and other TNC's have no control at the price that supermarkets offer their goods for. It is entirely down to the supermarket.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by CharlieO

Prices are rising because consumption is causing aggregate demand in the economy to shift outward at a pace that aggregate supply cannot contend with.
It is our fault the majority of prices are rising, we are consuming too much.

Oh and btw coca cola, nestle and other TNC's have no control at the price that supermarkets offer their goods for. It is entirely down to the supermarket.

I have no idea what any of that means....

[Mrluvaluva]

In 1990 the average RRP for a pack of 20 cigs was £1.65.

I actually was not aware you could buy cigarettes for online delivery from Tesco etc.

[Z]

The government doesn't want to wipe out smoking, it makes so much money out of taxing it, fact.

[MTVN]

It's AS Economics all over again

[Vicky.]

Also, smokers pay for a LOT more than just the costs they cause.

The NHS would collapse without smokers.

[Bollo]

I guess I'm kind of resigned to it now and I only buy 10 packs so I don't really notice the hike. I chose to smoke anyhow.

But I do think what a couple of people have said about lowering the price of healthy and/ or basic foods and increasing the price/tax on luxury sugary/fatty foods sounds sensible to me. Obesity related illnesses are probably costing more than smokers now.