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Old 01-05-2013, 07:42 PM #1
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That steps up the seriousness of it if they've actually got enough evidence to charge him now.
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He has now been Charged

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I didn't see that coming, so quickly anyway.
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What the hell is going on... Seriously Bill Roache, Rolf Harris , Max Clifford, Freddie Star and many others... They can't all be rapists and sexual molesters something is very wrong with this whole situation. People's lives and reputations are going down the toilet because anonymous people are making claims that these men assaulted or raped them up to 45 years ago...!!!!!

This is crazy surely they can't all be guilty of these sorts of crimes. I think clear heads and sensible thinking is needed to look at this worrying series of events. I for one think this whole situation has got out of hand and quite frankly is starting to look absurd.

Am I the only one who thinks this is all a bit strange...???
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What the hell is going on... Seriously Bill Roache, Rolf Harris , Max Clifford, Freddie Star and many others... They can't all be rapists and sexual molesters something is very wrong with this whole situation. People's lives and reputations are going down the toilet because anonymous people are making claims that these men assaulted or raped them up to 45 years ago...!!!!!

This is crazy surely they can't all be guilty of these sorts of crimes. I think clear heads and sensible thinking is needed to look at this worrying series of events. I for one think this whole situation has got out of hand and quite frankly is starting to look absurd.

Am I the only one who thinks this is all a bit strange...???
No I think it is strange too, you always have adulation of celebrities and I would guess it is something that can be taken advantage of.
It is said,that in Bill Roach's case, it is a case of 2 rapes against the same individual,now call me a cynic but I do feel the question needs to be asked, how twice with the same person and nothing said until now.

If I had been a girl or boy in the 60s and someone raped me,I would have for sure made sure it wasn't going to be even possible for it to happen again,even if I was going to say nothing at all at the time,I would ensure I was never in that situation again where it could.

I just don't know, the 60s was an odd time it seems and access to celebrities a lot easier it seems too.
I agree with you, it does seem crazy and really it leaves you asking more questions from every answer you think you may have come up with.

I don't know what evidence they can possibly have other than the verbal accusations and possible dates and times,however if I was on a jury, that likely wouldn't be enough for me to find someone who was pleading not guilty to be guilty after so long.

I cannot see many convictions coming from this really but then we haven't seen whatever evidence there is, of what there possibly can be after this long.

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What the hell is going on... Seriously Bill Roache, Rolf Harris , Max Clifford, Freddie Star and many others... They can't all be rapists and sexual molesters something is very wrong with this whole situation. People's lives and reputations are going down the toilet because anonymous people are making claims that these men assaulted or raped them up to 45 years ago...!!!!!

This is crazy surely they can't all be guilty of these sorts of crimes. I think clear heads and sensible thinking is needed to look at this worrying series of events. I for one think this whole situation has got out of hand and quite frankly is starting to look absurd.

Am I the only one who thinks this is all a bit strange...???
No, you're not, and with these all being historical charges, there's not much evidence one way or the other, its all one persons word against anothers.
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What the hell is going on... Seriously Bill Roache, Rolf Harris , Max Clifford, Freddie Star and many others... They can't all be rapists and sexual molesters something is very wrong with this whole situation. People's lives and reputations are going down the toilet because anonymous people are making claims that these men assaulted or raped them up to 45 years ago...!!!!!

This is crazy surely they can't all be guilty of these sorts of crimes. I think clear heads and sensible thinking is needed to look at this worrying series of events. I for one think this whole situation has got out of hand and quite frankly is starting to look absurd.

Am I the only one who thinks this is all a bit strange...???
I was thinking that but are we sure that these people are only coming forward now? When the Jimmy Saville stuff came out the Police said they were launching investigations, I wonder have they, because of the Jimmy Saville revelations gone back over allegations made but not properly followed up regarding celebrities? That would make more sense to me than a whole host of women suddenly coming forward 30-40 years on
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What kind of evidence could they possibly have after 46 years to charge him?
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Helen looking fit on the Daily Star frontpage.

Do hope this isn't true about Ken. Be a terrible way for his career to come to a climax (no pun intended )
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Do hope this isn't true about Ken. Be a terrible way for his career to come to a climax (no pun intended )

But just look at the Stuart Hall thread
He Raped a 9 year old girl
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So I think at that time loads of Stars were rapists
Bill is looking Guilty.
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So I think at that time loads of Stars were rapists
Bill is looking Guilty.
Indeed. Makes me a bit curious about when he said people who have been victims only have themselves to blame. Could well be that that made the victim (if this is all true) come forward.

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the whole thing has become an expensive tacky brutal tasteless witchunt......a total farce.
as many posters state, this should all be done private. as far as im concerned everyone should be anonymous until it gets to court. this bias in law where every accuser is anonymous and every accused is named and shamed is ridiculously unfair. keep them both anonymous for as long as possible. if the evidence is there, then name the accused.
it really is that simple
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the whole thing has become an expensive tacky brutal tasteless witchunt......a total farce.
as many posters state, this should all be done private. as far as im concerned everyone should be anonymous until it gets to court. this bias in law where every accuser is anonymous and every accused is named and shamed is ridiculously unfair. keep them both anonymous for as long as possible. if the evidence is there, then name the accused.
it really is that simple
I agree with this but Roache has been charged, so there must be evidence to prove it.
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Stuart Hall is going to go to prison
SkyNewsHD just said


Meanwhile ITV are removing Roache from episodes


What a Fecking mess

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What a Fecking mess
Oh Stuart Hall......yes I forgot about him in my last post....another potential Child Rapist.......my God what's next.......?????
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Hall Raped a 9 year old girl.


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Wow....!!!! Really...???? That is hard to believe, I mean has been a paedophile masquerading as a News reporter all these years ? where are all the hundreds of other child victims he must have abused also down the years ?

Perhaps now we will see a flood of other people with similar stories about sexual abuse from Hall.

But raping a 9 year old child.........string him up by his B*llocks...!!!!
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Has anyone read Broken by Shy Keenan. Tough read but she didn't get her step dad convicted until he was in his 80's and she was in her late 30's. When she was young nobody believed her, teachers, social workers, care homes all passed the buck. Can't be easy to follow something like this through years later, and it would take a very sick person in my view to make a complaint after so many years have passed without some thing to back it up. It would be much easier to jump on the Jimmy Saville bandwagon if you weren't being truthful surely?
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Wow....!!!! Really...???? That is hard to believe, I mean has been a paedophile masquerading as a News reporter all these years ? where are all the hundreds of other child victims he must have abused also down the years ?

Perhaps now we will see a flood of other people with similar stories about sexual abuse from Hall.

But raping a 9 year old child.........string him up by his B*llocks...!!!!
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My prediction is that he cannot escape a custodial sentence so he will probably get 2 years with one year suspended.... So could only serve 6 Months inside( probably in solitary confinement ).
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