[Conzors]

when i was unemployed i did voluntary work with autistic/aspergers children and he has definitely not got it.

[Vanessa]

It would explain why he ran off tot he tree house on the first day. i always thought it was very odd.

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It would explain why he ran off tot he tree house on the first day. i always thought it was very odd.

I would have run off to the tree house just to get away from the racket everyone was making. So many loudmouths in there and they don't listen to the answer when they have asked a question.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by boomoo

I would have run off to the tree house just to get away from the racket everyone was making. So many loudmouths in there and they don't listen to the answer when they have asked a question.

He just looked very uncomfortable.

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He just looked very uncomfortable.

He did. Very musical people cannot stand disorganised sound.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Conzors

when i was unemployed i did voluntary work with autistic/aspergers children and he has definitely not got it.

Big difference between adults and children. It can take time, I would think,(possibly longer if someone is low the spectrum, undiagnosed and making their way through without any informed guidance) to develop the kinds of strategies needed to interact with a world of people who mainly think a bit differently to them. Abz is an adult. He's a ta different point in that journey to the children you worked with.

Also: if you are working with children who have been identified as somewhere on the autistic spectrum, then I'd have thought it quite likely that those children are more identifiable as being on that spectrum than someone who has remained unidentified into adulthood.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Big difference between adults and children. It can take time, I would think,(possibly longer if someone is low the spectrum, undiagnosed and making their way through without any informed guidance) to develop the kinds of strategies needed to interact with a world of people who mainly think a bit differently to them. Abz is an adult. He's a ta different point in that journey to the children you worked with.

Also: if you are working with children who have been identified as somewhere on the autistic spectrum, then I'd have thought it quite likely that those children are more identifiable as being on that spectrum than someone who has remained unidentified into adulthood.

That's true. He seems more comfortable now, which i great. I love Abz!

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by Conzors

when i was unemployed i did voluntary work with autistic/aspergers children and he has definitely not got it.

At about 17 it fades away a lot.

[Blue Cadillac]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

At about 17 it fades away a lot.

Not really. The individual just adapts and learns to cope with it as they enter adulthood.

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by Conzors

when i was unemployed i did voluntary work with autistic/aspergers children and he has definitely not got it.

autism and aspergers are different. Many people will aspergers may not even realize they have it too much later on. I see no reason to not believe that Abz has Aspergers

[arista]

Originally Posted by Conzors

when i was unemployed i did voluntary work with autistic/aspergers children and he has definitely not got it.

Thank You
Dr.Conzors

[user104658]

Very mild asperger's in adults who have learned "masking techniques" (basically, learned how to act in social situations because social interactions don't come naturally) can manifest as a person just seeming very introspective or shy.

It's actually very hard to get a firm diagnosis of all types of mild autism if it isn't identified in childhood, for that very reason.

[CaudleHalbard]

Labels have to be put on everything these days.

It's always some syndrome or another. Keeps the psychoquacks happy, I guess!

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Labels have to be put on everything these days.

It's always some syndrome or another. Keeps the psychoquacks happy, I guess!

More than that. Children are being awarded disability allowance and motobility allowance which is a huge incentive to get a diagnosis of Asperger's or Autism.
On motobility surely a parent already has a car and does not need a free one.
The rules are that the person who has the award must be in the car. Wonder how often that rule is broken.?

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by boomoo

More than that. Children are being awarded disability allowance and motobility allowance which is a huge incentive to get a diagnosis of Asperger's or Autism.
On motobility surely a parent already has a car and does not need a free one.
The rules are that the person who has the award must be in the car. Wonder how often that rule is broken.?

Do you have any evidence that these allowances are being abused by parents on the make trying to get fake diagnoses for their kids?

[G1dds]

Originally Posted by boomoo

More than that. Children are being awarded disability allowance and motobility allowance which is a huge incentive to get a diagnosis of Asperger's or Autism.
On motobility surely a parent already has a car and does not need a free one.
The rules are that the person who has the award must be in the car. Wonder how often that rule is broken.?

Erm....... Not everyone who has a child with Aspergers claims disability allowance, top-ups etc etc, I certainly don't and I've got 2 boys with statements

Quite an ignorant comment if you ask me

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally Posted by boomoo

More than that. Children are being awarded disability allowance and motobility allowance which is a huge incentive to get a diagnosis of Asperger's or Autism.
On motobility surely a parent already has a car and does not need a free one.
The rules are that the person who has the award must be in the car. Wonder how often that rule is broken.?

It is extremely difficult to get the level of award you are talking about, it is usually given to families with children at the most severe ends of the spectrum, possibly non verbal, need help with mobility and may need a larger child's push chair, have other disorders and conditions that further affect their diagnosis etc.. My son has Aspergers and get's lower rate care and mobility, and at 17 years old uses it himself. I think my point is it would be almost impossible to push for an autism/aspergers diagnosis purely to claim for a car or dla, theyre not easy to get, take alot of time and require a massive amount of evidence, for the diagnosis itself, and then for the dla to be awarded after.

I also cant believe some of the comments Ive read on here that its for sympathy, or that it's cool? As a parent, let me tell you, its neither, and society is neither understanding nor forgiving enough for it to become a reason to gain votes in a reality show. Most people are unaware of what aspergers really is, why the hell would they vote for it?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by watchinittoomuch

It is extremely difficult to get the level of award you are talking about, it is usually given to families with children at the most severe ends of the spectrum, possibly non verbal, need help with mobility and may need a larger child's push chair, have other disorders and conditions that further affect their diagnosis etc.. My son has Aspergers and get's lower rate care and mobility, and at 17 years old uses it himself. I think my point is it would be almost impossible to push for an autism/aspergers diagnosis purely to claim for a car or dla, theyre not easy to get, take alot of time and require a massive amount of evidence, for the diagnosis itself, and then for the dla to be awarded after.

I also cant believe some of the comments Ive read on here that its for sympathy, or that it's cool? As a parent, let me tell you, its neither, and society is neither understanding nor forgiving enough for it to become a reason to gain votes in a reality show. Most people are unaware of what aspergers really is, why the hell would they vote for it?

I am waiting on Boomoo to come back and explain her post. It is the type of thing the Daily Mail churns out, with no basis in fact.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I am waiting on Boomoo to come back and explain her post. It is the type of thing the Daily Mail churns out, with no basis in fact.

I will answer a bit of what he/she said,
people can get disability living allowance, for having as, or being on the autism spectrum and in some severe cases they will get a car.

but its not a simple process to get put on the spectrum!.

a couple won the lottery but refused to give up their free mobility car!, so its swings and roundabout's.

[DanaC]

Yeah. Was so much nicer back in the good ol' days when nobody had a label, and kids with developmental disorders were just shunted around and out of the education system for being 'naughty', or 'rude' or disruptive, or 'stupid'.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Yeah. Was so much nicer back in the good ol' days when nobody had a label, and kids with developmental disorders were just shunted around and out of the education system for being 'naughty', or 'rude' or disruptive, or 'stupid'.

Quite often that's exactly what they were!

Now it is nobody's fault...... and heaven forbid anyone should blame the parents for not bringing up the the child properly.

It makes a mockery of those with genuine problems.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Quite often that's exactly what they were!

Now it is nobody's fault...... and heaven forbid anyone should blame the parents for not bringing up the the child properly.

It makes a mockery of those with genuine problems.

I said 'kids with developmental disorders'. If they had developmental disorders then their behaviour was often misread and therefore responded to as bad behaviour.

I am sure there were also many kids who were just misbehaving. If there weren't then why would anybody assume the children with developmental disorders were?

I spent a number of years helping people pick up the pieces and re-engage with education after their schooling and sometimes childhoods had been wrecked by undiagnosed learning disabilities and developmental disorders.

[DanaC]

I'm starting to feel a little angry with some of what's been said in here. Think I'll step away from it for while.

[sway]

I have mild aspergers syndrome, I've been programming (coding) computers since aged 12 as a hobby whilst pursing a masters level in Architecture. I've never had a group of friends or really a best friend.

I do not think someone in a boy band can be Aspergic. My heart sank when he said he had aspergers because its easy to say that when you're going through depression and feel crap. He DOES NOT have aspergers, just because he feels crap post-breakup from his band.

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by sway

I have mild aspergers syndrome, I've been programming (coding) computers since aged 12 as a hobby whilst pursing a masters level in Architecture. I've never had a group of friends or really a best friend.

I do not think someone in a boy band can be Aspergic. My heart sank when he said he had aspergers because its easy to say that when you're going through depression and feel crap. He DOES NOT have aspergers, just because he feels crap post-breakup from his band.

I too have 'mild Aspergers' and have always had trouble, esp. when little, dealing in social situations and I see no reason why Abz can not have aspergers.