[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I honestly do not see how it is damaging kids education. All teachers stick to the curriculum, male or female. They would be teaching the same stuff.

Exactly. This is applying to Primary Education, not Secondary. As long as children learn and develop the skills needed to enter further education, there is no problem who it is taught by. I was mainly taught by women during Primary school, didn't affect my results in the slightest.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Snowjakes

Exactly. This is applying to Primary Education, not Secondary. As long as children learn and develop the skills needed to enter further education, there is no problem who it is taught by. I was mainly taught by women during Primary school, didn't affect my results in the slightest.

firstly that's difficult to prove...secondly theres tens of millions of kids, your own experience cannot be applied to them all. clearly the boys are falling ever further behind and the education overall is also falling further behind.
clearly we need more male teachers, especially primary. 12% is a disgrace and if it was women at 12% the government and the media would be al over it. dangerous double standards.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by the truth

firstly that's difficult to prove...secondly theres tens of millions of kids, your own experience cannot be applied to them all. clearly the boys are falling ever further behind and the education overall is also falling further behind.
clearly we need more male teachers, especially primary. 12% is a disgrace and if it was women at 12% the government and the media would be al over it. dangerous double standards.

And so is the point of boys 'failing' because a lower percentage of males are teaching in Primary education. Just like your own experience cannot be applied, male and female pupils are going to fail and thrive no matter what the sex of the teacher is. If the curriculum is taught and carried out properly, the sex of the teacher doesn't play a part. They say the same general words. They write the same general stuff on the board. They teach in the same general way. Because they have to.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Snowjakes

And so is the point of boys 'failing' because a lower percentage of males are teaching in Primary education. Just like your own experience cannot be applied, male and female pupils are going to fail and thrive no matter what the sex of the teacher is. If the curriculum is taught and carried out properly, the sex of the teacher doesn't play a part. They say the same general words. They write the same general stuff on the board. They teach in the same general way. Because they have to.

total double standards, we demand more women into parliament undemocratically with women only shortlists and men banned from running from their own seat? because women supposedly bring different qualities to men...yet when we apply the same rules in reverse you turn it down. that is total complete and utter hypocrisy. you cant have your cake and eat it. clearly according to the feminist women bring different skills and experiences to men....that by default means men bring different skills and experiences too.
so that's clearly therefore one massive reason we neeed more male teachers and male role models for kids. the imbalance shouldn't be tolerated in this feminism controlled environment. where are the people looking for equal opportunities and fighting for the minority now?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I honestly do not see how it is damaging kids education.

you don't think male and female brains are different? you don't think some male teachers may prove beneficial to some boys? are you concerned how far behind boys are falling? why is that? is it linked to have a total collapse in primary school male teachers? do you think it would be acceptable to have 88% men in parliament and 12% women? if not why not? whats the difference? isn't our kids primary education important too?

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by the truth

you don't think male and female brains are different? you don't think some male teachers may prove beneficial to some boys? are you concerned how far behind boys are falling? why is that? is it linked to have a total collapse in primary school male teachers? do you think it would be acceptable to have 88% men in parliament and 12% women? if not why not? whats the difference? isn't our kids primary education important too?

What about male teachers being 'beneficial' to female pupils and vice versa? Or does that not happen?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Snowjakes

What about male teachers being 'beneficial' to female pupils and vice versa? Or does that not happen?

yes that does happen , but with 12% its not as beneficial as it should be

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

you don't think male and female brains are different? you don't think some male teachers may prove beneficial to some boys? are you concerned how far behind boys are falling? why is that? is it linked to have a total collapse in primary school male teachers? do you think it would be acceptable to have 88% men in parliament and 12% women? if not why not? whats the difference? isn't our kids primary education important too?

I dont give a **** about parliament at all and dont really see what relevance that has to anything in this thread? I dont think the sex of the person doing the job affects the job at all. No.

The ONLY time I think gender matters (and I will be crucified for saying this probably) is in jobs where strength is important. As I do believe in general, men are stronger than women.

Edit. Also, strangely enough, I don't feel as safe with a female pilot. I dont know why, just never have done

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

It's too hot right now to take part in this (central heating)

[Vicky.]

Also I dont think a male only shortlist type idea would work at all. If the problem is that not many males want to get into that line of work in the first place because of whatever reason..

Most schools are crying out for teachers at the moment. If there were surplus trained staff, male or female, they would be snapped up

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Also I dont think a male only shortlist type idea would work at all. If the problem is that not many males want to get into that line of work in the first place because of whatever reason..

Most schools are crying out for teachers at the moment. If there were surplus trained staff, male or female, they would be snapped up

but women only shortlists for parliament are fine? banning men from running for their own seat in a democracy? total contradiction and double standards. if its good enough for women to get positive discrimination then its good enough for men when theyre such a tiny minority in such a vital sector which is failing hopelessly partly because its so female dominated and the environment is far more conducive to women than men. no wonder the boys fall ever further behind, its a disgrace

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

but women only shortlists for parliament are fine? banning men from running for their own seat in a democracy? total contradiction and double standards. if its good enough for women to get positive discrimination then its good enough for men when theyre such a tiny minority in such a vital sector which is failing hopelessly partly because its so female dominated and the environment is far more conducive to women than men. no wonder the boys fall ever further behind, its a disgrace

I didnt even know there were women only shortlists for parliament. No I dont agree with that either.

I don't agree with any kind of discrimination, positive or negative. And this includes a new scheme that I only found out about recently, where disabled applicants are guaranteed an interview if they apply for a job.

[Shaun]

someone needs to get laid

[MTVN]

I think in some ways it would be good for there to be more male teachers, gender doesn't affect how good you are at teaching but it is a very personal job especially at primary school, the staff there play quite a big part in shaping how kids grow up and the boys might prefer and benefit from having a male role model

That said the primary school I went to never had a male teacher the whole time I was there and it didn't do any harm, though I did resent how female dominated it was

[Jake.]

stop talking about parliament, I really couldn't give a ****

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Snowjakes

stop talking about parliament, I really couldn't give a ****

Iltalk about what I like. you want to avoid it because you cant argue against it and it totally exposes the shallowness and double standards of yours and the equal opportunity feminist argument for positive discrimination

[Jake.]

Have you looked into how many male teachers actually apply for jobs in Primary education compared to Secondary? It's all well and good spouting '12%' this and '12%' that but surely primary schools who felt the need for more male students would hire them? Anyways, thanks for insulting me once more, think I'm done with your trolling for the evening.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Snowjakes

Have you looked into how many male teachers actually apply for jobs in Primary education compared to Secondary? It's all well and good spouting '12%' this and '12%' that but surely primary schools who felt the need for more male students would hire them? Anyways, thanks for insulting me once more, think I'm done with your trolling for the evening.

yeah go and quit troll

[Jake.]

And no I didn't wish to avoid it because I'm 'shallow' or 'spineless', but because we are talking about the percentage of males who are present in primary education. But of course, I'm the troll, nice one.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Snowjakes

And no I didn't wish to avoid it because I'm 'shallow' or 'spineless', but because we are talking about the percentage of males who are present in primary education. But of course, I'm the troll, nice one.

Yes you are. I am being sincere. I have put in a lot of energy and facts into this thread and you have provided nothing. You have also insulted me too, but I don't care. Im bigger than that I care more about the bigger issue at stake here, than my own ego...Ill hapilly sacrifice myself at the alter, ban me burn me, whatever...Ill fight for the truth as I see it...in this case the case in point is the education collapse and the disastrous drive fo radical feminism that's damaging every sector of our society

[GypsyGoth]

By the way the truth, you do realise that modern feminism would be in favour of there being more male teachers. So it's pretty absurd that you mistakenly believe it's somehow at fault here.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

By the way the truth, you do realise that modern feminism would be in favour of there being more male teachers. So it's pretty absurd that you mistakenly believe it's somehow at fault here.

wrong. where are the modern feminists then ? fighting for more male teachers? even on this thread , hardly anyone gives a toss...these feminists are shamed by their bias, their double standards and their silence

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by the truth

wrong. where are the modern feminists then ? fighting for more male teachers? even on this thread , hardly anyone gives a toss...these feminists are shamed by their bias, their double standards and their silence

The reason no one is fighting for more male teaching positions and that this thread is probably the only place in the whole wide world this is being discussed at this moment in time, is because the jobs are there is men want them. The fact that there are way fewer men in teaching is by their own choice.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

The reason no one is fighting for more male teaching positions and that this thread is probably the only place in the whole wide world this is being discussed at this moment in time, is because the jobs are there is men want them. The fact that there are way fewer men in teaching is by their own choice.

wrong. its not being discussed 1) because feminists and demanders of equality, positive discrimination, equalling the numbers in professions are a bunch of self hypocrites who clearly dont give a toss about whats for the best. they always prattle on about the poor women oppressed and outnumbered yet ignore it when men or even the didsabled are ostracised and become a huge minority
2) because men are not allowed opinions on such issues especially on mainstream tv as the double standards enforced by the feminist agenda mean men aren't allowed an opinion as they will be labelled sexist
3) meanwhile female only short lists of parliament are fine? total hypocrisy and totally undemocratic
4)the primary teaching profession is clearly making male applicants uncomfortable and this should be investigated the it needs to be rectified to encourage more men to apply to help improve our kids education and bring some more males and their unique skills and experience to the schools

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by the truth

wrong. its not being discussed 1) because feminists and demanders of equality, positive discrimination, equalling the numbers in professions are a bunch of self hypocrites who clearly dont give a toss about whats for the best. they always prattle on about the poor women oppressed and outnumbered yet ignore it when men or even the didsabled are ostracised and become a huge minority
2) because men are not allowed opinions on such issues especially on mainstream tv as the double standards enforced by the feminist agenda mean men aren't allowed an opinion as they will be labelled sexist
3) meanwhile female only short lists of parliament are fine? total hypocrisy and totally undemocratic
4)the primary teaching profession is clearly making male applicants uncomfortable and this should be investigated the it needs to be rectified to encourage more men to apply to help improve our kids education and bring some more males and their unique skills and experience to the schools

Your four point are invalid because of your nincompoopiness.