[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Absolutely not how I saw it.

The moment he realized what Lujisa had done his mood changed , he lost his confidence and actually questioned why Luisa would do that. He knew he;d touched on a sore point and for me never tried to gloat.

You are seriously pinning the blame on Luisa. This desperation has to stop.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

It was entirely calculated and he tried to go back on what he said, telling Luisa that it wasn't wise when she did exactly what he told her to do.

Yes he tried to lie but he couldhnt and got found out. He knew how much this mattered.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

You are seriously pinning the blame on Luisa. This desperation has to stop.

How am I pinning this on Luisa? She was the one who relayed the information, If that not true then tell me what happened?

[Jordan.]

Lmfao he clearly wanted her to tell Linda hence why he brought it up, the delusion is unreal.

[Brother Leon]

It's become borderline tbf. If it was gender reversal I do think it would be considered more seriously. When Conor,Luke and Arron were talking about Deana non stop and supposedly making her life in there hell there was huge bullying claims(obviously stemmed from the Conor rap, but their other antics were considered bullying too).

In fairness to Jim, he just brushes it all off and drops a funny one liner so I suppose that is why it's not serious.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It seems to me, both Coleen and Linda are very adept at turning on the tears for maximum effect, it is maybe the only thing they are good at.

Yes, how dare someone cry at their enemy trying to humiliate their dead husband give me a ****ing break

[GiRTh]

He did indeed tell Luisa to ask about Frank Carson but when he found out she had actually done it his mood changed. I dont see how I'm blaming Luisa but if you see it then please point it out.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

How am I pinning this on Luisa? She was the one who relayed the information, If that not true then tell me what happened?

He told Luisa to ask Linda and Luisa did, basically Luisa was innocent and he used her to ferry a message like a coward.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

He told Luisa to ask Linda and Luisa did, basically Luisa was innocent and he used her to ferry a message like a coward.

see above.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

He did indeed tell Luisa to ask about Frank Carson but when he found out she had actually done it his mood changed. I dont see how I'm blaming Luisa but if you see it then please point it out.

Yes, his mood changed to smug satisfaction, asking Linda "what happened in Frank Carson's dressing room? Tell me about it " and continually trying to talk to her and get a reaction.

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

In fairness to Jim, he just brushes it all off and drops a funny one liner so I suppose that is why it's not serious.

Jim DOES brush it off. I'm sure there would be a lot that could get to him, but in all fairness he has tried not to rise. That's not to say that he isn't justified in doing so when he does. He's a lot different to the person he was 25+ years ago. So am I.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Yes, his mood changed to smug satisfaction, asking Linda "what happened in Frank Carson's dressing room? Tell me about it " and continually trying to talk to her and get a reaction.

I dont remember that.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I dont remember that.

Selective memory is rich isn't it?

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

The moment he realized what Lujisa had done his mood changed , he lost his confidence and actually questioned why Luisa would do that. He knew he;d touched on a sore point and for me never tried to gloat.

This is why it sounds like you are shifting the blame to Luisa. Twice you seemed to insinuate she did something wrong. If you didn't mean that I apologize but I hope you can see why I thought it.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Yes, how dare someone cry at their enemy trying to humiliate their dead husband give me a ****ing break

I think Linda has done more to sour the memory of her dead husband with what she said the other night.
In fact Jim didn't mention her husband by name or even indicate that the Frank Carson had any connection to her husband anyway, as has been said repeatedly by many on here.

Linda could have said, she hadn't a clue what Jim was talking about and no housemate would likely then have been any the wiser.

Had she said she hadn't a clue what Jim meant but then Jim had gone on to bring in her husband then you may have a more valid point as to that.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Selective memory is rich isn't it?

I dont remember cuz it didnt happen.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I dont remember that.

I don't know if you are just trolling now

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Linda could have said, she hadn't a clue what Jim was talking about and no housemate would likely then have been any the wiser.

Agree with you 100%. That's what I'd have done.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think Linda has done more to sour the memory of her dead husband with what she said the other night.
In fact Jim didn't mention her husband by name or even indicate that the Frank Carson had any connection to her husband anyway, as has been said repeatedly by many on here.

Linda could have said, she hadn't a clue what Jim was talking about and no housemate would likely then have been any the wiser.

Had she said she hadn't a clue what Jim meant but then Jim had gone on to bring in her husband then you may have a more valid point as to that.

Nobody's claiming that Jim mentioned her husband by name. However, Jim's intentions were clear and it was entirely calculated. He knows what he was referring to, Linda knows what they were referring to. You're incredibly biased if you're trying to deny that.

How would my point be more valid if Linda ignored someone going below the belt? She stuck up for herself and for her husband and told Jim to **** off in a situation where he crossed many lines and should be told to **** off. If anything that's admirable.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I dont remember cuz it didnt happen.

Linda: Hello Mr. Big Time, what about Frank Carson's dressing room?
Jim: What about Frank Carson's dressing room?
Linda: What you asked Luisa to ask me about.
Jim: I didn't ask her anything about Frank Carson's dressing room.
Linda: 'Ask her about Frank Carson's dressing room.'
Jim: You tell me about Frank Carson's dressing room

nope, didn't happen at all.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It's bullying Vanessa it's plain for any with eyes to see.

I'm with you two,My eyeballs can see it's bullying.

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Nobody's claiming that Jim mentioned her husband by name. However, Jim's intentions were clear and it was entirely calculated. He knows what he was referring to, Linda knows what they were referring to. You're incredibly biased if you're trying to deny that.

How would my point be more valid if Linda ignored someone going below the belt? She stuck up for herself and for her husband and told Jim to **** off in a situation where he crossed many lines and should be told to **** off. If anything that's admirable.

She bit. It's what she's been trying to make Jim do all game so far. Better play to pretend to have no idea and make him look a complete fool / force HIM to explain the incident should he care to do so.

[Jezzy]

(not a fan of either)

[Z]

Linda's a bit like a dragon sitting on top of a pile of gold. The gold being her "reasons for hating Jim" - she'll never budge from her gold, she'll just terrorise Jim until he exposes her one weakness and then she's flapping about, roaring in agony and the gold all falls over. A bit like in that latest Hobbit film.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Jezzy

She bit. It's what she's been trying to make Jim do all game so far. Better play to pretend to have no idea and make him look a complete fool / force HIM to explain the incident should he care to do so.

So basically what it comes down is that Linda's not allowed to stand her ground. Gotcha, I get it now.