[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Summing it up in one foul swoop.

Jale: "I don't wanna be a sympathy case.” She then looks at the cameras and starts crying just after one of Pauline's rants.

Wanting one thing and feeling another is quite common though. Again, flimsy evidence.

I could go into BB and say I won't get emotional about nominations but if I find myself getting emotional that's not something I can help.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Wanting one thing and feeling another is quite common though. Again, flimsy evidence.

I could go into BB and say I won't get emotional about nominations but if I find myself getting emotional that's not something I can help.

Come on what does it take for you to believe me!? Jale actually out and out saying it? Or does Helen have to do the same things as Jale to get you into this faking victim status business?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Come on what does it take for you to believe me!? Jale actually out and out saying it? Or does Helen have to do the same things as Jale to get you into this faking victim status business?

Actual evidence of her being a fake.

We've not seen Jale engineer any situations. The video posted earlier she was actually sat in the living room eating. What a bitch.

[Kizzy]

If you hadn't brought a balm in the house why use one though... it was a bit daft, I would be well annoyed if someone used mine tbh.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

If you hadn't brought a balm in the house why use one though... it was a bit daft, I would be well annoyed if someone used mine tbh.

I assumed she thought it was one bought with the shopping.

[BigBuk]

I dont really know what could be worse than calling a christian a "jesus shagger".

Yeah I can see why Helen was angry about someone accidently taking her lip balm, I mean everyone would be angry about that. Jale took her lip balm knowing the fury it would cause, so she could play the victim, amazing gameplaying by Jale.

[Jords]

fight fight fight

[Marsh.]

There is no fight, just lots of ifs and maybes.

[Kizzy]

But why share lip balm?... I just don't get it, I wouldn't dream of it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

But why share lip balm?... I just don't get it, I wouldn't dream of it.

They're not I don't think. There's a pack bought so all of the balms are identical.

[Jords]

Theres worse things to share... like a tampon.

[BigBuk]

Originally Posted by Jords

Theres worse things to share... like a tampon.

I agree with this.

[Kizzy]

oh flip the whole christian thing again, christians aren't daft enough to waste energy getting offended at a daft mare blurting out some inane ramble on BB are they?

[Jords]

Can we have a C option pls?

[Marsh.]

[Mystic Mock]

Are you Bateing me?

[Marsh.]

No Master Bates.

[Mystic Mock]

Good.

[Ammi]

..I haven't watched any of the balm-gate stuff yet but I certainly think I would describe Pauline as a psychological bully..it's not just that she targets people and tries to turn others against them because that's quite often done..it's more that she tries to justify things to them by trying to persuade them that it's all their fault/that if they were 'better' people then these things wouldn't happen to them..a purposeful dumbing down of self-esteem in someone is something I feel is bullying...Helen..?..I've not seen anything that could be described as bullying yet..

[Vanessa]

I can sympathise with Jale, but i can't support her. I just don't find her entertaining. And no, i don't think it's bullying.

[lily.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I haven't watched any of the balm-gate stuff yet but I certainly think I would describe Pauline as a psychological bully..it's not just that she targets people and tries to turn others against them because that's quite often done..it's more that she tries to justify things to them by trying to persuade them that it's all their fault/that if they were 'better' people then these things wouldn't happen to them..a purposeful dumbing down of self-esteem in someone is something I feel is bullying...Helen..?..I've not seen anything that could be described as bullying yet..

It's like when people in an abusive relationship get made to feel like they're not good enough for anyone.

How do you think this situation would be perceived if Pauline was a man?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lily.

It's like when people in an abusive relationship get made to feel like they're not good enough for anyone.

How do you think this situation would be perceived if Pauline was a man?

Yeah, that's a good comparison and spot on. Pauline likes to beat people down to make herself feel great and powerful in herself

[Jake.]

My mind has completely changed.. yeah, I'd class it as bullying and Helen/Pauline are disgusting people.

[Daffodil]

Yes it is definitely bullying. She is being targetted. But, Jale is a strong person and will come through it fine. I think Helen will hang herself (metaphorically) before the end of the series i.e I think she will lose the right to a free pass to the final.

[Black Dagger]

Only after last night with the lipstick thing and Helen berating Jale in front of everybody.

Still don't think the bullying is as bad as it has been in other series though.