[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, making her kick off and get even more hate on Facebook is making her look like the victim. Course it is.

It's the redemption story line. From a hate figure, to the winner.

The same **** they pulled on the last CBB.

It won't work this time but she'll place higher than what everyone thought this time 2 weeks ago.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

Tbf I think it's intended to have both effects described here with different viewers and cause controversy, and it's certainly working. I suppose that's why you're having this debate right now.

Either way it creates controversy and a buzz around the show, and probably more votes for and against her.

Yeah, thinking about it, they probably don't even care which one or if either of them win or not, I don't think that's the important part for them

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, thinking about it, they probably don't even care which one or if either of them win or not, I don't think that's the important part for them

I agree. Every year I see threads about BB's favourite and manipulation around who they want to win, but I've never understood why it would make a difference to them who won. Meh, maybe I'm just naive

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Did you see him say at the end of the video "she didn't just say that ?" lets hope so HBB,IF he hadn't got in with her he would have won this, she's dragged him down

where is the video, I cant find video feeds anywhere ?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by MrWong

It's the redemption story line. From a hate figure, to the winner.

The same **** they pulled on the last CBB.

It won't work this time but she'll place higher than what everyone thought this time 2 weeks ago.

Except they've been doing this all series and it hasn't turned anything around. Your premise is flawed.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, thinking about it, they probably don't even care which one or if either of them win or not, I don't think that's the important part for them

The producers never have and never will care who wins.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

I agree. Every year I see threads about BB's favourite and manipulation around who they want to win, but I've never understood why it would make a difference to them who won. Meh, maybe I'm just naive

No I don't think you are. I definitely think they manipulate situations to cause drama and possibly to keep HMs that cause drama in but I don't think the winner matters a **** to them tbh, I mean Sam won, Luke A won, what have they done since besides the very odd appearance on BOTs. They don't need the "better characters" to win to give them more airtime on channel 5 and BOTs afterwards

[Patricia4]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

where is the video, I cant find video feeds anywhere ?

It was on the 2nd page Ive fetched it back.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Except they've been doing this all series and it hasn't turned anything around. Your premise is flawed.

She's way more liked than she was. How has it not turned around?

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

No I don't think you are. I definitely think they manipulate situations to cause drama and possibly to keep HMs that cause drama in but I don't think the winner matters a **** to them tbh, I mean Sam won, Luke A won, what have they done since besides the very odd appearance on BOTs. They don't need the "better characters" to win to give them more airtime on channel 5 and BOTs afterwards

Good, glad I'm not the only one who thinks this! I guess some people are just big on conspiracies

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by MrWong

She's way more liked than she was. How has it not turned around?

Not due to twists of this sort.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Not due to twists of this sort.

BB know she won't kick off 3 days away from the final. Even a munter like Helen and even if she did kick off, or say things in retaliation, BB don't have to show it.

[jet]

How on earth have the HM's not sussed out that the evictions were fake? No crowd noise, diary room exits, power HM's evicting someone when they know it's now vote to win, and the person they chose to evict could have been getting the most votes!
Or have they sussed it and the editing is cutting out any mention of it?
It's all very weird and unrealistic.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by MrWong

BB know she won't kick off 3 days away from the final. Even a munter like Helen and even if she did kick off, or say things in retaliation, BB don't have to show it.

Except they would show since this is designed to cause some drama for the final week. They wouldn't want to get her wound up in isolation and not get the highlights footage they sought from it. Helen knows she isn't going to win so the final makes no difference to her.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

How on earth have the HM's not sussed out that the evictions were fake? No crowd noise, diary room exits, power HM's evicting someone when they know it's now vote to win, and the person they chose to evict could have been getting the most votes!
Or have they sussed it and the editing is cutting out any mention of it?
It's all very weird and unrealistic.

They told them it was a vote to evict. The diary room exits they've done before with Marlon and PH eviction with Danielle so it's very believable for them.

The only fallback is Helen having a pass to the final suddenly being up in a pre-final vote to evict, you'd think that would be obvious to them straight away.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Except they would show since this is designed to cause some drama for the final week. They wouldn't want to get her wound up in isolation and not get the highlights footage they sought from it. Helen knows she isn't going to win so the final makes no difference to her.

Not being hated matters though. She's talked about it a number of times.

If BB give Helen a negative edit i'll concede but I really don't think that they are going to do that.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Keep going girl ..............

11.57am: "Never compare me to Mariah!!" Ashleigh is growing into her role as a diva marvelously. #BBUKLive

Deary me

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

They told them it was a vote to evict. The diary room exits they've done before with Marlon and PH eviction with Danielle so it's very believable for them.

The only fallback is Helen having a pass to the final suddenly being up in a pre-final vote to evict, you'd think that would be obvious to them straight away.

Weren't they already told they had reached the final? They have never done diary room exits for a final and there has never been only 4 in a final before that I remember. Once HM's are in a final, there are no evictions. It goes 'the person finishing in 6th place is....' etc.

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by MrWong

BB know she won't kick off 3 days away from the final. Even a munter like Helen and even if she did kick off, or say things in retaliation, BB don't have to show it.

What have her looks got to do with her kicking off?

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Craigy_CraigO

What have her looks got to do with her kicking off?

Munter as in thick. She's stupid, but not that stupid (to make herself more hated by kicking off 3 days before a final).