[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Thats one way of looking at it but again you could say isnt it great he went thru so many countries to come to Britain.

Indeed. However passing through many safe countries kinda negates the 'he was scared for his life so came here' argument

[smudgie]

Maybe we are seen as the soft touch.

Perhaps if we changed that then we could say goodbye to the roadkill.

[user104658]

Find it quite ridiculous that people seem to believe he'd want to be in Britain "for the benefits". To claim benefits he would have to legitimise his status in the country by officially seeking asylum to get "on the books" - it seems highly unlikely that someone who would risk themselves clinging to the bottom of a lorry is then going to risk declaring themselves as asylum seeking when they get here when it might well mean being sent straight back out of the country on the next flight.

No. He would not have been here to sit claiming benefits. More likely, he would be working for an unscrupulous employer for slave wages (usually £3 or so an hour).

With that in mind - the problem with the UK that is attracting ILLEGAL immigrants (to reiterate, illegal immigrants cannot claim benefits without revealing themselves!) is the fact that there are people employing them illegally for low wages. It's these employers (exploiters) who need to be cracked down on to stop Britain from being attractive to illegals. Not the benefits system.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Find it quite ridiculous that people seem to believe he'd want to be in Britain "for the benefits". To claim benefits he would have to legitimise his status in the country by officially seeking asylum to get "on the books" - it seems highly unlikely that someone who would risk themselves clinging to the bottom of a lorry is then going to risk declaring themselves as asylum seeking when they get here when it might well mean being sent straight back out of the country on the next flight.

No. He would not have been here to sit claiming benefits. More likely, he would be working for an unscrupulous employer for slave wages (usually £3 or so an hour).

With that in mind - the problem with the UK that is attracting ILLEGAL immigrants (to reiterate, illegal immigrants cannot claim benefits without revealing themselves!) is the fact that there are people employing them illegally for low wages. It's these employers (exploiters) who need to be cracked down on to stop Britain from being attractive to illegals. Not the benefits system.

[T*]

it's also really unfair on the drivers

[thesheriff443]

some people.

as long as im alright jack attitude.
the west only go into third world countries to rape all its natural resources, screw the poor over and build a fcuk off mansion in another tax evading country.

[MTVN]

Well presumably its felt that they have less chance of being deported from the UK, that they have more chances of dodging the authorities and think there are better opportunities open to them in Britain. You can argue thats a flaw in our system and that we're being too soft but the UK is obviously considered a more attractive destination than France. And when you've come that far I suppose the thinking is you might as well go that little bit further. The European leg is probably the least treacherous of their journey.

No one here is saying he and others like him should be encouraged or that he made a smart decision. But that doesn't mean you can't have some sympathy with someone losing their life in such a desperate way instead of cheerleading for it. There's fairly uncomfortable undertones to comparing an illegal immigrant to vermin or road-kill imo.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by The Geordie Jesus

Well presumably its felt that they have less chance of being deported from the UK, that they have more chances of dodging the authorities and think there are better opportunities open to them in Britain. You can argue thats a flaw in our system and that we're being too soft but the UK is obviously considered a more attractive destination than France. And when you've come that far I suppose the thinking is you might as well go that little bit further. The European leg is probably the least treacherous of their journey.

No one here is saying he and others like him should be encouraged or that he made a smart decision. But that doesn't mean you can't have some sympathy with someone losing their life in such a desperate way instead of cheerleading for it. There's fairly uncomfortable undertones to comparing an illegal immigrant to vermin or road-kill imo.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by The Geordie Jesus

Well presumably its felt that they have less chance of being deported from the UK, that they have more chances of dodging the authorities and think there are better opportunities open to them in Britain. You can argue thats a flaw in our system and that we're being too soft but the UK is obviously considered a more attractive destination than France. And when you've come that far I suppose the thinking is you might as well go that little bit further. The European leg is probably the least treacherous of their journey.

No one here is saying he and others like him should be encouraged or that he made a smart decision. But that doesn't mean you can't have some sympathy with someone losing their life in such a desperate way instead of cheerleading for it. There's fairly uncomfortable undertones to comparing an illegal immigrant to vermin or road-kill imo.