[farhad]

You live in immortal spiritual life in the hereafter than live for only few decades on earth, if I had to choose I would prefer an immortal life in the hereafter.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by farhad

You live in immortal spiritual life in the hereafter than live for only few decades on earth, if I had to choose I would prefer an immortal life in the hereafter.

I don't believe that, I believe when we're dead, we're dead so I won't be shooting myself in the head anytime soon, sorry to disappoint you

[farhad]

I don't have to preach them, we have strong faith in god so we don't have to end our lives to prove his existence, we have our proof, but to those who question it, perhaps that's their best piece of, because no matter what proof we give you, it wouldn't sufficient to you.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by farhad

If god created us and he is the reason we exist then he can put out any rules he wants us to obeys. Rules are advocated for many purposes. Such as adultery, is the cause of many problems in the society that it ruins and psychologically damages anyone who are born without knowing their parent. Is that modest??? sexual promiscuity is many cause of aids and viruses as well as other sexual activities. Aids were not heard of in the ancient time and Our prophet PBUH was the first ever to talk about aids and disease that will kill people who indulge in an endemic sexual activity with many different people.

But wasn't infidelity or multiple partners more common back in ancient times? There wasn't the traditional "nuclear" family set ups that we see today?

I'm not a total history buff though so I don't know.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by farhad

"More like cowardly, afraid to find out the truth once terminated"

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So no proof in this life then ??
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"find proof then just put it bullet to the head unless your a coward to face your creator now"

You are not doing the 'Moderate' Islamic cause any good Farhad. Your responses are becoming increasingly more disturbing as the the thread progresses.

Words such as "Bullet to the head", "Coward" and "Terminated" are hardly evocative of a 'follower' of a 'peaceful religion' are they?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

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Originally Posted by Nedusa View Post
So no proof in this life then ??
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"find proof then just put it bullet to the head unless your a coward to face your creator now"

You are not doing the 'Moderate' Islamic cause any good Farhad. Your responses are becoming increasingly more disturbing as the the thread progresses.

Words such as "Bullet to the head", "Coward" and "Terminated" are hardly evocative of a 'follower' of a 'peaceful religion' are they?

Well he does put the ISIS in ThISISbigbrother

[farhad]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

But wasn't infidelity or multiple partners more common back in ancient times? There wasn't the traditional "nuclear" family set ups that we see today?

I'm not a total history buff though so I don't know.

of course it was, in arab culture it was a hobbie to do anything they willed until Prophet Muhammad PBUH was a saviour and turned them into one of the greatest forces in medieval and post death of the prophet. They became powerful and were the forefront of material and scientific development. However the sexually transmitted disease which were unheard of in the ancient times, something the greeks and Egyptian did not mention was first mentioned by our prophet. That those who indulge in widespread multiple sexual activity will have a serious consequence and disease will spread around and death will prevail, which in modern terminology we call them AIDS.

[farhad]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedusa View Post
So no proof in this life then ??
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"find proof then just put it bullet to the head unless your a coward to face your creator now"

You are not doing the 'Moderate' Islamic cause any good Farhad. Your responses are becoming increasingly more disturbing as the the thread progresses.

Words such as "Bullet to the head", "Coward" and "Terminated" are hardly evocative of a 'follower' of a 'peaceful religion' are they?

I haven't asked anyone to take anyone elses life I just gave them an example if they want proof of his existence then that is perhaps the best solution to find out.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

But wasn't infidelity or multiple partners more common back in ancient times? There wasn't the traditional "nuclear" family set ups that we see today?

I'm not a total history buff though so I don't know.

What need was there for infidelity when a man could have 4 wives?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by farhad

of course it was, in arab culture it was a hobbie to do anything they willed until Prophet Muhammad PBUH was a saviour and turned them into one of the greatest forces in medieval and post death of the prophet. They became powerful and were the forefront of material and scientific development. However the sexually transmitted disease which were unheard of in the ancient times, something the greeks and Egyptian did not mention was first mentioned by our prophet. That those who indulge in widespread multiple sexual activity will have a serious consequence and disease will spread around and death will prevail, which in modern terminology we call them AIDS.

So why was this disease only spread AFTER?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

What need was there for infidelity when a man could have 4 wives?

You know what I meant.

[farhad]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

What need was there for infidelity when a man could have 4 wives?

The difference is your not engaging in sex outside the marital bond. The benefit of that was during the ancient times, men died in far greater number than women that's why it was only allowed in such circumstances, ofcourse its different now. I think women would rather be legally married then having intercourse outside of marriage, and be guaranteed security.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by farhad

The difference is your not engaging in sex outside the marital bond. The benefit of that was during the ancient times, men died in far greater number than women that's why it was only allowed in such circumstances, ofcourse its different now. I think women would rather be legally married then having intercourse outside of marriage, and be guaranteed security.

Does that include very young girls forced to become wives Farhad? Do you think they'd rather be married and be guaranteed security than be free to select partners themselves?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You know what I meant.

[farhad]

show me where anyone is forced into marriage, and I want a proper references from law of the creator and not examples from what some third world countries example.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by farhad

show me where anyone is forced into marriage, and I want a proper references from law of the creator and not examples from what some third world countries example.

Did you not watch Panorama last night?

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by farhad

find proof then just put it bullet to the head unless your a coward to face your creator now

Why not preach this message to all death worshipping Islamic extremists and with a bit of luck they may oblige.

They get to meet their glorious maker and have all their "virgins" whilst back down here on planet Earth, normal peaceful innocent people get to hang onto their heads...!!!





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[lostalex]

Originally Posted by farhad

You live in immortal spiritual life in the hereafter than live for only few decades on earth, if I had to choose I would prefer an immortal life in the hereafter.

no you don't. you've been brainwashed by a cult. wake up.

[Livia]

Mohammed married his wife Aisha when she was just six years old and consummated the marriage when she was nine years old. He was an old man at this time, he died nine years later. What a tremendous example of goodness and purity.

[kirklancaster]

Farhad, I am a Christian, so some of your tenets are the same as mine, but I am genuinely concerned that you seem to be issuing statements 'Robot-Fashion' as though you have been 'pre-programmed', 'pre-coached on doctrine'.

[Tom4784]

This Zakir seems like a bit of a twat.

[farhad]

Originally Posted by Livia

Mohammed married his wife Aisha when she was just six years old and consummated the marriage when she was nine years old. He was an old man at this time, he died nine years later. What a tremendous example of goodness and purity.

Oh lets not forget his first wife was 25 years older than him

[Livia]

Originally Posted by farhad

Oh lets not forget his first wife was 25 years older than him

And you think in some way, that cancels out having sex with a nine year old child?

[farhad]

Originally Posted by Livia

And you think in some way, that cancels out having sex with a nine year old child?

I don't see anywhere in quran that prophet married a child

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by farhad

He gave you a penis and sperms

God love the penis and the sperms