[dyfed]

[QUOTE=HBB1508;7926531]He's just following Mummy's orders - she directed him to stick with Mark by plonking that fake kiss on Mark's cheek and he is just doing what he is told!!! In my opinion of course!![/QUOTE]

[dyfed]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Joel..the Lapdog.

You got that right..

[just thinkin]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Your put downs as to how she controls her son,which you have no idea of, your inability to see that she has watched the show and knows Marc has never said a bad thing about her Son or done anything against him.
You then put her down for supporting a bully,when all she did was thank him for looking out for him after the bunker task.

None of which in my view are appropriate or even correct and you were the one who also chose to describe her as his Mother as fair game to be got at after her very brief appearance in the house,not me.

She is probably for all you know a brilliant Mother and he a really good Son to her too.
Values you seem to infer they either don't have and need criticising for as to any influence one may have with the other.

I repeat,I would not like at all my Mother classed as fair game,(what a term), by anyone who didn't know anything about her at all really for just doing an invited and very brief appearance on a reality TV show.

lol you call me commenting on what his mother actually did being 'nasty' - wow what must you think of helen and marc and their lapdog -

[just thinkin]

I see mumsy was back in front of the cameras last night - she might be better if she stayed away....doing her licckl son no favors.

[Lstan]

Originally Posted by BENDERBOY

I was one of his biggest supporters, mainly because i wanted to do him...

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Stop making her out to be this intimidating matriarch ,she isn't she's just loud and harsh,you give her far too much credit,not that I mind,I like her.

Kazanne that's your opinion...it's not mine.
She is intimidating...and that's not credit!!...also there is nothing nasty on here. This is a topic on Joel..nothing nasty just opinions.

[just thinkin]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Kazanne that's your opinion...it's not mine.
She is intimidating...and that's not credit!!...also there is nothing nasty on here. This is a topic on Joel..nothing nasty just opinions.

[abhorson]

Unintentionally maybe. But Joel's mum remark to Marc has killed his hope of winning. Joel got sucked in.

[Tarryn]

He was the only HM who did not grate on me UNTIL the legends came in.
Now he just seems to follow them around & is kind of ignoring his old friends.
Am I the only one who does not really like anybody in that house

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by just thinkin

lol you call me commenting on what his mother actually did being 'nasty' - wow what must you think of helen and marc and their lapdog -

I think you were wrong to call his Mother fair game,yes.

Also yes I do think Helen and Marc are nasty and go way over the top at times.
In fact there are at least 3 now rather nasty people in there,in my view.
I have said that plenty in my posts on here.

I do not see someone being friendly with near all in the house as anyones lapdog.

You see him negatively even to deriding his Mother, I don't, I see him positively.
You can only keep pulling me up on daft petty things and I do think, with respect, we have really exhausted the point of carrying on as to that now.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

He was the only HM who did not grate on me UNTIL the legends came in.
Now he just seems to follow them around & is kind of ignoring his old friends.
Am I the only one who does not really like anybody in that house

No.

I am now just going on who is the least worse. Been an mediocre bunch this year.

[just thinkin]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think you were wrong to call his Mother fair game,yes.

Also yes I do think Helen and Marc are nasty and go way over the top at times.
In fact there are at least 3 now rather nasty people in there,in my view.
I have said that plenty in my posts on here.

I do not see someone being friendly with near all in the house as anyones lapdog.

You see him negatively even to deriding his Mother, I don't, I see him positively.
You can only keep pulling me up on daft petty things and I do think, with respect, we have really exhausted the point of carrying on as to that now.

Bubye

[just thinkin]

Originally Posted by abhorson

No.

I am now just going on who is the least worse. Been an mediocre bunch this year.

no, none of them do anything for me. Maybe if they were left alone originally it might have been a better show. We don't have a chance to get to know their personalities before the whole theme changes.