[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

'The father, aged 24, has signed an agreement saying he will have no part in the children’s lives'

The children won't sign any such agreement so hopefully should they wish to when they're older they could contact him. Everyone deserves to know where they come from if it's at all possible.

So, a normal sperm donor agreement.

He won't get involved in their lives but the agreement doesn't prevent them from finding out about him and even making contact when they're old enough.

Why anyone would want to get in contact with their biological father if they were a sperm donor is beyond me. There'd be no connection there beyond DNA. I'd value the parents that actually raised me a lot more than a random sperm donor who doesn't know and wouldn't care that I existed.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So, a normal sperm donor agreement.

He won't get involved in their lives but the agreement doesn't prevent them from finding out about him and even making contact when they're old enough.

Why anyone would want to get in contact with their biological father if they were sperm donor is beyond me. There'd be no connection there beyond DNA. I'd value the parents that actually raised me a lot more than a random sperm donor who doesn't know and wouldn't care that I existed.

who are you to say what these kids should or shouldn't want ? youre trying to act like a God. IF you really cared about these kids youd want to know what the kids want and how kids brought up by gay couples especialy sperm donors think of it all

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So it's basically the real life version of 'The Kids Are Alright'?

Good for them, I don't think it's unfair on the children to not know who their biological father is, plenty of kids grow up with one parent just fine and these kids are going to have two loving parents so I don't see what the problem is, it's not like the father's been forced out of the picture, he's a sperm donor and they rarely have anything to do with the kids anyway.

your lying....its proven fact kids from 1 parent families who have no fathers or mothers are massively disadvantaged, clearly you don't care about that

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

your lying....its proven fact kids from 1 parent families who have no fathers or mothers are massively disadvantaged, clearly you don't care about that

I was raised by a single mother and was not disadvantaged in the slightest

I would have been worse off had my father stayed in our lives due to his lifestyle.

Don't assume you know anything about a vast and varied group of people all from very different sets of circumstances.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I was raised by a single mother and was not disadvantaged in the slightest

I would have been worse off had my father stayed in our lives due to his lifestyle.

Don't assume you know anything about a vast and varied group of people all from very different sets of circumstances.

sadly it really shows

YOUre the one who assumes Im talking about the overall figures, kids overall are massively disadvantaged with a one parent family....try and drop the both chips you have and allow other kids the option of mother and father

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

sadly it really shows

Pardon?

Originally Posted by the truth

YOUre the one who assumes Im talking about the overall figures, kids overall are massively disadvantaged with a one parent family....try and drop the both chips you have and allow other kids the option of mother and father

Erm, what? I haven't done any such thing.

Would you like to try again?

[Crimson Dynamo]

to be fair I think Lesbians should suffer vile little brats ruining their lives and costing them sleep and money like the rest of us


it will serve them both right

[Tom4784]

Oh Truth, you're so ridiculous that I can't get mad at you. I can only laugh. You're like Frankenstein's monster if it was created by the editor of the Daily Mail.

[Marsh.]

He tries so hard to be controversial I find it endearing tbh.

[JoshBB]

A couple are having two children. Why is this news tbh lmao

[AnnieK]

During my long experience with infertility and the IVF journey, I was offered sperm donation after failed attempts using my partners. As a woman desperate for a child, I was all for it but my partner was not as keen, his main argument against it was due to hi being worried that if the child got ill down the line and needed a donor or something, he would not be able to help the child as he hadn't biological link to it, not because it would not be "his". In the end my need for a baby and his hesitation split us up so I can understand any woman feeling the need to have their own child but I do understand some of the counter arguments having lived through it. We did look into adoption and started the process but it is so intrusive and feels a lot like you are scrutinised unfairly for not being able to conceive naturally. Good luck to these ladies though

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

During my long experience with infertility and the IVF journey, I was offered sperm donation after failed attempts using my partners. As a woman desperate for a child, I was all for it but my partner was not as keen, his main argument against it was due to hi being worried that if the child got ill down the line and needed a donor or something, he would not be able to help the child as he hadn't biological link to it, not because it would not be "his". In the end my need for a baby and his hesitation split us up so I can understand any woman feeling the need to have their own child but I do understand some of the counter arguments having lived through it. We did look into adoption and started the process but it is so intrusive and feels a lot like you are scrutinised unfairly for not being able to conceive naturally. Good luck to these ladies though

i'm sorry you went through such a stressful event annie....

but i must ask, did you ever consider trying to get pregnant without him and just never telling a living soul, and do you think it would affect how much he loved the child at all? if he never knew it was;'t his but always believed the child was biologically his... assuming you didn't **** a black guy, do you really think he would have ever known or cared or loved the kid less just because it wasn't biologically his?

I watched a really interesting documentary called "Little White Lie" the other day...and the conclusion she came to, was that family has nothing to do with genetics.

"Little White Lie"

Youtube video

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i'm sorry you went through such a stressful event annie....

but i must ask, did you ever consider trying to get pregnant without him and just never telling a living soul, and do you think it would affect how much he loved the child at all? if he never knew it was;'t his but always believed the child was biologically his... assuming you didn't **** a black guy, do you really think he would have ever known or cared or loved the kid less just because it wasn't biologically his?

I watched a really interesting documentary called "Little White Lie" the other day...and the conclusion she came to, was that family has nothing to do with genetics.

"Little White Lie"

Youtube video

No I didnt consider that....but in hindsight I am sure he wouldn't have loved the child any more or less but I personally could not have lived that life or lie. He has 2 kids from a previous relationship and I have since had my own child so I think at the end of the day, we were incompatible which was terribly sad as he was my best friend.

[lostalex]

well i don't agree with or like your opinions. i'm repulsed by them and i disagree with them completely.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

well i don't agree with or like your opinions. i'm repulsed by them and i disagree with them completely.

That's fine, I can live with that.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That's fine, I can live with that.

you should feel a bit bad about being wrong though. i think you should.

[Kizzy]

My opinion is my opinion who are you to said it's wrong?