[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i don't believe you.

you seem like the type of guy that would bitch and moan and report that kind of assault immediately if even just to prove your point.

i also don't believe it for other reasons, but it would be rude of me to explain further.

To be disbelieved by a liar like you is a compliment, so thanks

[user104658]

Originally Posted by the truth

simply because its not considered a crime when women grope men? which they do all the time....ive had my cock grabbed 100s of times.....and no I didn't bother going to the police not even when the woman was rich

Hundreds of times? Hundreds?? Where have you been hanging around, truth .

Even when I was at Uni / out in clubs etc. a lot I can think of maybe 5 - 10 times when I've been "groped" by a random (usually an arse grab while stood at the bar).

It's literally never happened to me, nor any male I know, outside of a clubbing environment and I have to say Truth... you don't really strike me as a hardcore nightclub enthusiast?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Hundreds of times? Hundreds?? Where have you been hanging around, truth .

Even when I was at Uni / out in clubs etc. a lot I can think of maybe 5 - 10 times when I've been "groped" by a random (usually an arse grab while stood at the bar).

It's literally never happened to me, nor any male I know, outside of a clubbing environment and I have to say Truth... you don't really strike me as a hardcore nightclub enthusiast?

100s of times....deal with it

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by the truth

simply because its not considered a crime when women grope men? which they do all the time....ive had my cock grabbed 100s of times.....and no I didn't bother going to the police not even when the woman was rich

I don't understand where you find all these extremely desperate women who don't love themselves tbh.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I don't understand where you find all these extremely desperate women who don't love themselves tbh.

oh here comes the hero to pretend to now get offended on behalf of the entire female population just because I dare point out the fact women griope all the time...have you actually been to a gig packed with women? .lol desperate? ha ha they have good taste

[Will.]

mess

[user104658]

I get what you're saying Alex. If I serve an under-18 (gambling industry) it's me that can get a 6-month prison sentence or a Ł5000 fine, the person under 18 who has gambled isn't punished in any way. This is pretty obvious, because the entire point of the law is to protect young people, because they aren't yet fully able to protect themselves. That they will try to circumvent the law is fairly obvious - for exactly that reason - they are young and irresponsible, and so, it is up to us, as adults, to do our best to make sure they're protected.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I get what you're saying Alex. If I serve an under-18 (gambling industry) it's me that can get a 6-month prison sentence or a Ł5000 fine, the person under 18 who has gambled isn't punished in any way. This is pretty obvious, because the entire point of the law is to protect young people, because they aren't yet fully able to protect themselves. That they will try to circumvent the law is fairly obvious - for exactly that reason - they are young and irresponsible, and so, it is up to us, as adults, to do our best to make sure they're protected.

thank you. it is very silly that somehow girls lying about their age when it comes to sex is treated differently. guess what, underage girls also lie about their age when they try to buy alcohol, but we never excuse bartenders for serving 14 y/o's just for claiming to be adults do we??

whereis this double standards coming from? it's coming from a patriarchy which imagines adult straight men are victims, and not children.

the concept of a child being more responsible for a crime than a grown adult man, it's ridiculous.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

thank you. it is very silly that somehow girls lying about their age when it comes to sex is treated differently. guess what, underage girls also lie about their age when they try to buy alcohol, but we never excuse bartenders for serving 14 y/o's just for claiming to be adults do we??

whereis this double standards coming from? it's coming from a patriarchy which imagines adult straight men are victims, and not children.

the concept of a child being more responsible for a crime than a grown adult man, it's ridiculous.

lots of 18+ year old women have had sex with under 18 year old men, yet rarely if ever is this reported and you choose to ignore it, because you hate hetrosexual men

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by the truth

lots of 18+ year old women have had sex with under 18 year old men, yet rarely if ever is this reported and you choose to ignore it, because you hate hetrosexual men

no i don't hate heterosexual men, i hate child abusers.

I hate any situation in which an adult man is ****ing a 14 y/o child is abuse.

I'm confused by other people's definition of child abuse, i guess.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

no i don't hate heterosexual men, i hate child abusers.

I hate any situation in which an adult man is ****ing a 14 y/o child is abuse.

I'm confused by other people's definition of child abuse, i guess.

yes only adult MEN but not adult women...sexist man hater

[Will.]

welp

[lostalex]

truth, i really can't tell if you actually expect us to take you seriously, or if you are a sasha baron cohen type of troll that we should be laughing with...

[Mystic Mock]

Pmsl at The Truth having his cock grabbed 100 times.

But seriously Lostalex in what way was he suppose to find out this girl's age? If his innocent? And with your Bartender argument, if the Bartender didn't know the child and they looked 18, then of course I can understand if they accidently sold the child Alcohol, I would like to think that most of us would because by the time that I was 14 I knew not to dupe 18/19 year old girls into sleeping with me (like they ever would anyway lol) and I knew not to try and get Alcohol for myself by duping adults.

So yes the responsibility is with the children at that point.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Pmsl at The Truth having his cock grabbed 100 times.

But seriously Lostalex in what way was he suppose to find out this girl's age? If his innocent? And with your Bartender argument, if the Bartender didn't know the child and they looked 18, then of course I can understand if they accidently sold the child Alcohol, I would like to think that most of us would because by the time that I was 14 I knew not to dupe 18/19 year old girls into sleeping with me (like they ever would anyway lol) and I knew not to try and get Alcohol for myself by duping adults.

So yes the responsibility is with the children at that point.

i disagree, the responsibility is never with the children.

I still get carded occasionally when i buy alcohol and i'm a 33 y/o man. so don't tell me that it's impossible to check ages on girls you sleep with. in fact i think most girls would be flattered by that. if a girl doesn't have ID and acts offended guess what, she's probably underage! i know i'm flattered when i get carded.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i disagree, the responsibility is never with the children.

I still get carded occasionally when i buy alcohol and i'm a 33 y/o man. so don't tell me that it's impossible to check ages on girls you sleep with. in fact i think most girls would be flattered by that. if a girl doesn't have ID and acts offended guess what, she's probably underage! i know i'm flattered when i get carded.

I get where you're coming from, but I would imagine that it's a mood killer asking someone are you a child or a young adult?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I get where you're coming from, but I would imagine that it's a mood killer asking someone are you a child or a young adult?

well let's think of the options here...

the options presented to an adult man who might not be sure of the age of his very young woman(?) that he wants to ****....

either you kill the mood with an adult woman, or you rape a 14 y/o girl.

which side of that equation seems more important?

[Mystic Mock]

Pmsl at The Truth having his cock grabbed 100 times.

But seriously Lostalex in what way was he suppose to find out this girl's age? If his innocent? And with your Bartender argument, if the Bartender didn't know the child and they looked 18, then of course I can understand if they accidently sold the child Alcohol, I would like to think that most of us would because by the time that I was 14 I knew not to dupe 18/19 year old girls into sleeping with me (like they ever would anyway lol) and I knew not to try and get Alcohol for myself by duping adults.

So yes the responsibility is with the children at that point.

[Amy Jade]

im cackling at this thread

[lostalex]

dezzy, you are a mod, can you please tell us his real name, so we can stop referring to him as the truth?

every time i address him as "truth" i throw up a little inside.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

dezzy, you are a mod, can you please tell us his real name, so we can stop referring to him as the truth?

every time i address him as "truth" i throw up a little inside.

THE truth and nothing but the truth. deal with it.

[the truth]

I actually agree with alex that a man (AND A WOMAN) must now ask for id before he has sex with anyone. even then check the validity of the id. also its high time men complained about women who grope them...or pester them or make endless lewd comments especially in the workplace. why should guys always laugh it off?

[Mystic Mock]

Staying away from the Prisons.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Staying away from the Prisons.

yea, that seems like the logical choice... and like we agreed upon earlier, it is ALWAYS the adults job to take responsibility.

just like when you've had a few drinks when you go out, and you feel like you aren't sure if you should drive or not, but you really don't want to have to take a cab home, and then take a cab to pick up your car the next morning, sometimes making the right choice is hard. but since when is it okay to make the wrong choice just because it's easier?

never. it's never okay.