[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

But if "Ghosts" were able to appear or let you get a whiff of their aroma, why wouldn't they be more than just that? Like why not appear to the whole family at once are give a proper message etc?

What about poltergeists though there are a lot of unexplained things that go on...I don't know I don't really believe 100 per cent in an afterlife but...

[Jay.]

Originally Posted by arista

Your Light goes out
like turning off a Computer.

You go no other place at all
you are sadly DEAD

who says that poetry is a dying art?

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Kyle

Going off on a little tangent but if ghosts were categorically proven to be real would anyone masturbate/have sex again knowing your old Uncle Tony could be at the end of your bed watching?

OMG Kyle....I thought about that when my father-in-law died.
Not bothered about anyone else watching to be honest

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kyle

Going off on a little tangent but if ghosts were categorically proven to be real would anyone masturbate/have sex again knowing your old Uncle Tony could be at the end of your bed watching?

Originally Posted by Cherie

What about poltergeists though there are a lot of unexplained things that go on...I don't know I don't really believe 100 per cent in an afterlife but...

mmm I don't know, i like to try and keep an open mind but I think that involves scrutinizing all these kind of occurrences. I'd still be too afraid to stay in an old "haunted" house

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kyle

Going off on a little tangent but if ghosts were categorically proven to be real would anyone masturbate/have sex again knowing your old Uncle Tony could be at the end of your bed watching?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What about poltergeists though there are a lot of unexplained things that go on...I don't know I don't really believe 100 per cent in an afterlife but...

cherie you do realise that things like that were invented by humans to entertain, frighten etc

they are not real

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kyle

Going off on a little tangent but if ghosts were categorically proven to be real would anyone masturbate/have sex again knowing your old Uncle Tony could be at the end of your bed watching?

[Crimson Dynamo]

"oh well LT would you stay in that castle a mile down the road on your own after watching a horror film?"

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

cherie you do realise that things like that were invented by humans to entertain, frighten etc

they are not real

Really, you mean that headless horseman that clip clips past my house every night is one of the neighbours

[mizzy25]

When I die my body will be left for use in medical science for up to 3 years.

[Brother Leon]

Only one way to truly know really...

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by smudgie

OMG Kyle....I thought about that when my father-in-law died.
Not bothered about anyone else watching to be honest

Proper Yorkshire lass thar knows

[Niamh.]

Cherie this just popped up on my news feed on FB and it made me think of you

http://www.evoke.ie/extra/woman-sees...aby-in-4d-scan

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its no wonder that religion catches on in civilisation with the old

no when you die its all lovely line

oh but if you dont believe you will be tortured for eternity


you could not make that sh1t up

oh....someone did

[joeysteele]

I don't believe and don't want to believe death ends everything.
I go with Livia mostly in her post earlier and her view of our/an energy force carrying on and I can hold with the energy of those connected to that energy being gathered to it when others die.

Kazanne makes another good point as to what is the point if there is nothing after death.
Everything we do, we need careful planning to do so and create, looking at the wonder of the human body and how it is made up, leaves it hard to believe there was/is no creative force behind it and all just happened by accident.

I have had things happen I cannot explain away simply, however I can also be sceptical as to life after death.
It cannot be proven or disproven there is nothing or that there is something, I myself keep an open mind on the issue and would hope there is more, whatever that may be.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Cherie this just popped up on my news feed on FB and it made me think of you

http://www.evoke.ie/extra/woman-sees...aby-in-4d-scan

Lol

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't believe and don't want to believe death ends everything.
I go with Livia mostly in her post earlier and her view of our/an energy force carrying on and I can hold with the energy of those connected to that energy being gathered to it when others die.

Kazanne makes another good point as to what is the point if there is nothing after death.
Everything we do, we need careful planning to do so and create, looking at the wonder of the human body and how it is made up, leaves it hard to believe there was/is no creative force behind it and all just happened by accident.

I have had things happen I cannot explain away simply, however I can also be sceptical as to life after death.
It cannot be proven or disproven there is nothing or that there is something, I myself keep an open mind on the issue and would hope there is more, whatever that may be.

The point is life, this life. isn't that enough?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Isn't just having a life to live in the first place a point though?

What point though if there is nothing at the end ? we get wiser as we get older ,then we die I think life is a test and we have several ,it's hard to explain without getting really deep into things,plus I don't fancy being called the Tibb nutter well not out loud anyway

[Jessica.]

I agree with Niamh, the only point in life is to live and be alive. There's nobody guiding that or plotting your life out, you're just born, you live and then you die.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its no wonder that religion catches on in civilisation with the old

no when you die its all lovely line

oh but if you dont believe you will be tortured for eternity


you could not make that sh1t up

oh....someone did

This could easily be hell LT,lets face it ,it's not a nice place sometimes,scarey even, and you don't have to be old to believe in something greater than us.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The point is life, this life. isn't that enough?

Yes it is.
However the connections we make, the feelings we develop for those in our lives, all that bonding, for me it seems a total waste for all that to just be gone.
I accept the view we are always seemingly learning as to living but learning for what purpose, is where I can leave the door open to belief in more to come.

People who die young, who are inspirational and do so much in their short lives, for me that should mean and count for much, this life is not a set life, it can be long or short, often very short too.
That is another reason why I like the thought of something carrying on.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

What point though if there is nothing at the end ? we get wiser as we get older ,then we die I think life is a test and we have several ,it's hard to explain without getting really deep into things,plus I don't fancy being called the Tibb nutter well not out loud anyway

The problem I see with life being a test is that none of us are under the same set of circumstances.

Some of us are born in the life of Riley where they don't have to do anything all their lives. Some of us are born severely handicapped either physically or mentally or without any chance to get anywhere in life. Some of us die in infancy or even earlier before they get any chance to be tested.

Have you ever known a test like that where everyone gets a diferent exam paper for no reason whatsoever?

[Crimson Dynamo]

if you understand how life on earth evolved and the basic chemical make up of the universe and then add 13 billion years its not too hard to see how we got here

but there is no point or meaning


gravity made the ball we live on and entropy will destroy it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kyle

The problem I see with life being a test is that none of us are under the same set of circumstances.

Some of us are born in the life of Riley where they don't have to do anything all their lives. Some of us are born severely handicapped either physically or mentally or without any chance to get anywhere in life. Some of us die in infancy or even earlier before they get any chance to be tested.

Have you ever known a test like that where everyone gets a diferent exam paper for no reason whatsoever?

indeed

today 20,000 children will die

and tomorrow

and the next day

and the next

and the next


well you see where I am going here

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Yes it is.
However the connections we make, the feelings we develop for those in our lives, all that bonding, for me it seems a total waste for all that to just be gone.
I accept the view we are always seemingly learning as to living but learning for what purpose, is where I can leave the door open to belief in more to come.

People who die young, who are inspirational and do so much in their short lives, for me that should mean and count for much, this life is not a set life, it can be long or short, often very short too.
That is another reason why I like the thought of something carrying on.

The reason humans make strong bonds with each other is the same reason why elephants bond and live in groups. It's the same reason why Lions live in groups and meerkats and every other social creature. There is safety in numbers and also nature and evolution are just nourishing the perfect conditions to reproduce, stronger and healthier as time goes on. So yeah, every part of scientific research will tell you that he life cycle of basically every living thing is the same, it's born, it lives, reproduces, dies.