[Crimson Dynamo]

My living room is spotless so f you

[Niamh.]

[Vicky.]

My living room is fine now

My bedroom however...its a good thing they never checked in there. Its clogged full of xmas presents everywhere, you can barely move

[Niamh.]

What the **** does she expect anyway when you're only out of hospital and still not fixed, with a troublesome toddler and a baby?

[Vicky.]

Well I know, this is what my complaint is about. I mean, I could understand it if the house was vile. But her issue was literally a few toys in the middle of the floor, a piece of James burger on the floor (that he had just thrown there, was still eating) and that he was eating in his carseat...which he CHOSE to get into

I'm sorry, I'm not sitting with a dustpan and brush throughout my sons whole meal, incase a little bit of food goes onto the floor for what...5 minutes?!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

My living room is spotless so f you

[arista]

Vicky have you watched the Ch4HD series The Secret Life of 4 Year olds?


It was amazing
they put a choc . cake down

Two 4 year olds licked to Top
then told the parent
a big bird flew down and did it.

[Vanessa]

It could be the ear infection that's causing her to behave this way.

[Tom4784]

Adoption is always an option.

[Niamh.]

Dezzy!

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Adoption is always an option.

I was going to say this myself. I'm glad somebody else had the idea!!

[Vicky.]

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Adoption is always an option.

who would take Vicky tho, she cant even keep her gaff tidy

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

She isn't eating any differently to what she always has...everything I can think of that it could possibly be, it isn't :S

Nothing is helping, not being more strict, not giving her more attention, nothing at all. Its just screaming constantly. I refuse to leave her screaming to the point of making herself sick too..maybe this is the issue, maybe thats how to sort it out, but I disagree with that completely.

The health visitor is supposed to help with **** like this, not judge us on a few toys lying out?!

You could always contact the people in charge of the health visitors, tell them your problem and admit you need help, but also say why you don't wish the previous health visitor to visit. If you get a good health visitor (I did and she was my life-line) then she can at least offer some suggestions.
I don't pretend to be a child expert, but have your daughter checked out by your doctor. If she is fine health wise, then leaving her to cry may be the only option.
It sounds awful, but at that age they can be incredibly manipulative and soon learn what pushes your buttons.

[Vicky.]

Just had a long talk with my mum (who is at work on nights for the next week )

She says she will have her once work ends, but for the moment...she reckons Skye is manipulating me? As apparently she is an angel when shes there. My mum reckons she has discovered that going on hysterical upsets us and such and as we gave into her once or twice...she now sees screeching as worth it :S

I wouldn't have thought a 3 year old would manipulate you like...so not sure how to take this?

[Niamh.]

she's probably right tbh Vicky, kids will get away with as much as they can.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

You could always contact the people in charge of the health visitors, tell them your problem and admit you need help, but also say why you don't wish the previous health visitor to visit. If you get a good health visitor (I did and she was my life-line) then she can at least offer some suggestions.
I don't pretend to be a child expert, but have your daughter checked out by your doctor. If she is fine health wise, then leaving her to cry may be the only option.
It sounds awful, but at that age they can be incredibly manipulative and soon learn what pushes your buttons.

Yeah I was talking to the 'patient liason service' or something thing morning who are going to get the manager to call me back, said I would get the option of another HV or no contact at all. I do feel some help is needed at this stage but just not the 'help' I have got so far. I am going to give the new health visitor a shot before writing them off completely.

My mum just said the same thing about manipulation too :S

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

she's probably right tbh Vicky, kids will get away with as much as they can.

I just have a hard job believing what is essentially a baby...can purposely manipulate you?!

But yeah, my mum said to just leave her to cry if nothing else is working. She reckons I will have at least 3 nights of absolute hell but then it should sort itself out and be fine for the months to come

I guess my mother brought us 3 up fine (bar not teaching us to clean out sitting rooms, before trumpet comments ) but some of the things she says seem rather...harsh

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Just had a long talk with my mum (who is at work on nights for the next week )

She says she will have her once work ends, but for the moment...she reckons Skye is manipulating me? As apparently she is an angel when shes there. My mum reckons she has discovered that going on hysterical upsets us and such and as we gave into her once or twice...she now sees screeching as worth it :S

I wouldn't have thought a 3 year old would manipulate you like...so not sure how to take this?

It's my experience that they learn to manipulation very young... hence the terrible two's.

My daughter was a lovely two year old and was the devil as a three year old.
Memories I have blocked out until reading this thread

[Ninastar]

Probably not much use to you really, but whats your mum like with her? Is she strict? I dont have kids of my own (obviously lol) but I have worked with kids for the last 6+ years and in general, I think kids have a lot more respect/love for stricter parents/teachers/carers. There's a 4 year old girl atm who will kick, hit, scream and everything else at the other members of staff, but as soon as the manager comes down, she stops and calms herself down straight away. The manager literally never gets mad with her anymore, but the little girl knows that the manager does not tolerate certain behaviour and will behave perfectly when the manager is around.

Its difficult when its your own child though. I feel for you, i really do.

[Vicky.]

Yes my mum is very strict, always has been. We have never really needed to be strict with Skye as shes always been pretty much well behaved. I guess now is time to bite the bullet though and be 'mean parents' for a while...

[Ninastar]

i think that might be the best as much as it sucks and will hurt, it will be better off for her in the long run. at a nursery I used to work at, there was one girl who would tantrum so much that she'd throw up and her mum asked her to leave her to it and she stopped within a day or two. Her mum said that she tried it twice at home and they didnt give a reaction, so she tried it with us and started to realise it wasnt working so didnt bother again.

[Ninastar]

jesus christ, just realised I put '4 year old teacher' instead of '4 year old girl' pahahaha

how embarrassing

[Kizzy]

Your mum sounds very wise
Only room for one diva in my house I was lucky never had bedtime shennanigans, after the story I'd put classical FM on low on the landing and that was it.

[Ross.]

Sounds like you're going through hell Vicky, I really hope it gets better for you because I can't even begin to imagine what you're going through