[lime]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh ok, fair enough

See this is the problem with Corkonians who beleive that cork is the capital of the republic

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lime

See this is the problem with Corkonians who beleive that cork is the capital of the republic

We've just gone independent now instead, we're our own little country

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by lime

they were making chicken for dinner...how is that dodgy.

Were they? I saw no references to that

[lime]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Were they? I saw no references to that

I thougt I heard The girl from SCD ask about how she would make the chicken

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by lime

I thougt I heard The girl from SCD ask about how she would make the chicken

Think I'll watch the repeat.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by lime

I thougt I heard The girl from SCD ask about how she would make the chicken

The only food I saw during the episode was sandwiches, before the 2nd advert.

No one mentioned chicken, unless I missed it again.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's not always a race card LT, Racism does actually exist. That comment from John sounded a bit dodgy to me

They might have been cooking chicken though

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's not always a race card LT, Racism does actually exist. That comment from John sounded a bit dodgy to me

being a bit dodgy doesn't warrant being accused of racism though, especially these days where being accused of racism is basically worse than being called a pedophile. it's like saying... oh that guy holding a kid looks a bit dodgy, he might be her father, but even so, let's just accuse him of being a pedophile just in case!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

being a bit dodgy doesn't warrant being accused of racism though, especially these days where being accused of racism is basically worse than being called a pedophile. it's like saying... oh that guy holding a kid looks a bit dodgy, he might be her father, but even so, let's just accuse him of being a pedophile just in case!

I didn't say it did lol I was just saying that it was a bit dodgy (or would have been if they hadn't actually been eating chicken)

[cheapbbfan]

BB UK is one of the most racist programs out there. They ALWAYS come for the black women. I was utterly disgusted with the way the entire house turned on Tiffany

[Livia]

Originally Posted by cheapbbfan

BB UK is one of the most racist programs out there. They ALWAYS come for the black women. I was utterly disgusted with the way the entire house turned on Tiffany

Everyone turned on Tiffany because she was acting like an insensitive idiot. Especially after she knew the truth. I strongly disagree that BB is racist in anyway and frankly I'm bored STIFF with the suggestion that it is.

[cassieparis]

Oh here we go!!
Black people are victimized in the BB house because they're different and what happens?
They get accused of playing cards.

Or those that wished to defend them from the racists are card players too!!!
In order to play the race card you have to be in a "game" of race with other players, no?

You'd think Britain was a society free of racism where everybody lived happily welcoming refugees. Please!!

There are some deep seated serial deniers here. Nothing is ever racist in their universe.
I see you!!!!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by cassieparis

Oh here we go!!
Black people are victimized in the BB house because they're different and what happens?
They get accused of playing cards.

Or those that wished to defend them from the racists are card players too!!!
In order to play the race card you have to be in a "game" of race with other players, no?

You'd think Britain was a society free of racism where everybody lived happily welcoming refugees. Please!!

There are some deep seated serial deniers here. Nothing is ever racist in their universe.
I see you!!!!

On the other hand, there are the people who perceive racism everywhere even where none exists.

I see you too! But only till I get to the ignore button.

[cassieparis]

Originally Posted by Livia

On the other hand, there are the people who perceive racism everywhere even where none exists.

I see you too! But only till I get to the ignore button.

Yeah and you know what else you can do don't you?
Tastes nice

But you aren't talking to me

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by cassieparis

Yeah and you know what else you can do don't you?
Tastes nice

But you aren't talking to me

wow, so mature and on topic, next you are gone tell her to ucksay your ickday because of course if you say it in a childish code it's super clever. homosaywhat?

[cassieparis]

Originally Posted by lostalex

wow, so mature and on topic, next you are gone tell her to ucksay your ickday because of course if you say it in a childish code it's super clever. homosaywhat?

Already told and in plain English.
So appreciate the compliments.

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by cassieparis

Oh here we go!!
Black people are victimized in the BB house because they're different and what happens?
They get accused of playing cards.

Do you not see anything wrong with the way Tiffany reacted last night? If you had lost someone significant in your life, would you appreciate someone ranting and raving at you? Her race has nothing to do with the group rounding on her, it was her extremely distasteful and inappropriate reaction to someone that was grieving.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Stevep

Do you not see anything wrong with the way Tiffany reacted last night? If you had lost someone significant in your life, would you appreciate someone ranting and raving at you? Her race has nothing to do with the group rounding on her, it was her extremely distasteful and inappropriate reaction to someone that was grieving.

yep and her inability to see beyond her own nose that someone had lost a husband and the world a great star


you could not make it up

[cassieparis]

Originally Posted by Stevep

D

I see a lot wrong with the way Tiffany behaved last night and the response was disproportionate and deeply associated with her gender and race IMO.

I also believe that some of the H/Ms descended into pack mentality because of the her race and gender. It simply wouldn't have happened to Jeremy in the same way if he believed D Gest was dead and raved stupidly about it.

I am not a person that believes differences will not trigger ignorance in others who want to instigate a fight.

Differences are always on the table when someone is spoiling for a fight and John has been spoiling with all that repression and took his minions along with him.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by cassieparis

I see a lot wrong with the way Tiffany behaved last night and the response was disproportionate and deeply associated with her gender and race IMO.

I also believe that some of the H/Ms descended into pack mentality because of the her race and gender. It simply wouldn't have happened to Jeremy in the same way if he believed D Gest was dead and raved stupidly about it.

I am not a person that believes differences will not trigger ignorance in others who want to instigate a fight.

Differences are always on the table when someone is spoiling for a fight and John has been spoiling with all that repression and took his minions along with him.

Nothing to do with her race or gender, it was her vile attitude

[cassieparis]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Nothing to do with her race or gender, it was her vile attitude

Yeah it is.

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by cassieparis

I see a lot wrong with the way Tiffany behaved last night and the response was disproportionate and deeply associated with her gender and race IMO.

I also believe that some of the H/Ms descended into pack mentality because of the her race and gender. It simply wouldn't have happened to Jeremy in the same way if he believed D Gest was dead and raved stupidly about it.

I am not a person that believes differences will not trigger ignorance in others who want to instigate a fight.

Differences are always on the table when someone is spoiling for a fight and John has been spoiling with all that repression and took his minions along with him.

Tbh, due to the show being edited none of us truly know how out of hand the situation got in the house so it's difficult to determine whether the reaction of the HMs was excessive or not, but going by the snippet of what we saw i agree that certain HMs could have handled the situation a whole lot better.

That said, i disagree that the reaction was due to race for a couple of reasons but the main one being that Daniella had the exact same reaction towards Angie when she was under the impression that Angie had said that Gest was dead. He initial reaction was that Angie was 'fcking sick' and that 'she should be removed from the house'. So no double standards here as the reaction was exactly the same towards both Tiffany and Angie.

I agree with you that HMs would not have rounded on another HM as much as Tiffany but again i don't think that's down to race. Tiffany herself the other day said that she has nothing in common (or words to that affect if i remember correctly) with anyone in the house, most of the other HMs have bonded therefore it's only natural, rightly or wrongly, for people that have bonded to be more compassionate to each other when they have been in the wrong.

Edit: On a side note, the only person to emerge from that show last night in a positive light would be Jeremy. I do despise when people are rounded upon, whether they were in the wrong or not, and on two occasions this series Jeremy has refused to join the pack hounding for blood. Credit to him for firstly voting Nancy ahead of Winston when the popular move would have been to vote for Winston and also last night, when he said he would not isolate Tiffany despite what had happened.

[chuff me dizzy]

Every bloody series is the racist/homophobia card dragged out ,this is not racism ,its just a bitch who lied,nothing more sinister than that

[fitz2k2]

you would think someone in audience of bots would say racism ,but I guess the audience ain't smart enough

[Crimson Dynamo]

she hardly did the "black community" any favours last night thats for sure