[Livia]

If these people put as much time and effort into following the rules there wouldn't be any kind of problem. If they don't like the school rules maybe they should try to get their little angels into a school where they can "express themselves".

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

If these people put as much time and effort into following the rules there wouldn't be any kind of problem. If they don't like the school rules maybe they should try to get their little angels into a school where they can "express themselves".

If more schools put the effort into actually educating and having a reputation for that rater than enforcing certain 'rules' perhaps, which schools are allowed to express themselves?.. Apart from faith schools that don't have to follow any curriculum, but by god the dress code is bang on!

[Josy]

Rules are rules and are in place for a reason.

[arista]

Ammi in this trade said:
"the new Head is working against the parents as well,"

Bollocks

All the kids with the Parents that
went by his printed Letter
are in the school.


Its was Just the bad parents
not bothering to much.



I back the New Head 100%
this has gone Worldwide
giving England a Top name in Education.

[Niamh.]

Seems very OTT tbh

[bots]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Seems very OTT tbh

not if its a recognised method of identifying troublemakers and rectifying the problem. If parents truly want their kids education improved, they would applaud and support the school in its attempts to do so

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

not if its a recognised method of identifying troublemakers and rectifying the problem. If parents truly want their kids education improved, they would applaud and support the school in its attempts to do so

Suede shoes = potential serial killer?

[bots]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Suede shoes = potential serial killer?

in a school with problems, attitudes of parents and pupils are very important. They are there to learn, not compare shoes. The school is basically setting its stall out in creating a controlled educational environment. If people want to question that, they should do so after giving the school the opportunity to resolve the educational deficiencies. Its identifying those that want to be obstructive, and that can only be good.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

in a school with problems, attitudes of parents and pupils are very important. They are there to learn, not compare shoes. The school is basically setting its stall out in creating a controlled educational environment. If people want to question that, they should do so after giving the school the opportunity to resolve the educational deficiencies. Its identifying those that want to be obstructive, and that can only be good.

mmm, pretty much all schools here have uniforms which is fine, it makes life easier for both me and my kids tbh but at the end of the day kids aren't robots either, they should be allowed some from of expression imo be that with their hair or with shoes (as long as it doesn't cause a health and safety issue)

[Kizzy]

If schools insist on regulation then perhaps they should provide regulation appropriate attire?
It would remove this trial and error approach.

[Vicky.]

Jesus christ..I could understand it if they were black but covered in multicoloured rhinestones or something, but those are just *****g black shoes.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its about rules and showing who is in charge. Try turning up for work 10 mins late all week and try and say 'its only 10 minutes ffs'

The school has rules like life has rules. Follow them or find a new school. Dead simple

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its about rules and showing who is in charge. Try turning up for work 10 mins late all week and try and say 'its only 10 minutes ffs'

The school has rules like life has rules. Follow them or find a new school. Dead simple

Me everyday tbh

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Me everyday tbh

LOL... you bad.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Me everyday tbh

and your boss is..........

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and your boss is..........

No one tells me what to do

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

No one tells me what to do

Poor Gav

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

They could also be causing parents to get their backs up because of sheer stupidity imo. To me those shoes looks perfectly acceptable, if I spent alot of money buying my child a pair of shoes (and they're not cheap) only to be told that the plain black shoes I got aren't plain enough, I'd be pretty annoyed and probably a fair chunk out of pocket. I mean, those shoes pictured don't, to me, scream "rebel without a cause" they look like shoes a parent who was trying to follow the rules would buy

Indeed. Also black leather shoes tend to be a lot more expensive than other black shoes..I can imagine lower income people struggling, especially when the restg of the uniform is paid for too

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its about rules and showing who is in charge. Try turning up for work 10 mins late all week and try and say 'its only 10 minutes ffs'

The school has rules like life has rules. Follow them or find a new school. Dead simple

Oddly enough, I have never got into trouble for this Bosses just roll their eyes about it and make a sarcastic comment

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Indeed. Also black leather shoes tend to be a lot more expensive than other black shoes..I can imagine lower income people struggling, especially when the restg of the uniform is paid for too



Oddly enough, I have never got into trouble for this Bosses just roll their eyes about it and make a sarcastic comment

exactly, infact I think it would have the complete opposite effect of what stamping down their authority is trying to achieve, widen the divide between lower income families and making the us and them feeling even bigger.

[Tom4784]

The headtwat is preventing kids from learning in order to follow what is a pointless rule. There's no defending it and there's nothing sadder than depriving kids of a day's schooling to enforce a pedantic rule that serves no purpose.

Rules that don't serve a purpose should not be rules in the first place.

You could probably find those shoes in the pictures in the bargain bin of a George store so it's not about status since none of those shoes are designer in any way. The headtwat just wanted to flex his muscles and it cost a bunch of kids a day of education for no real reason.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The headtwat is preventing kids from learning in order to follow what is a pointless rule. There's no defending and there's nothing sadder than depriving kids of a day's schooling to enforce a pedantic rule that serves no purpose.

Rules that don't serve a purpose should not be rules in the first place.

You could probably find those shoes in the pictures in the bargain bin of a George store so it's not about status since none of those shoes are designer in any way. The headtwat just wanted to flex his muscles and it cost a bunch of kids a day of education for no real reason.

The shiny-ish ones, I am sure I saw them in shoezone a few weeks back for 4 quid, when I was looking for school shoes for my kids

[Vicky.]

I understand the need for uniform..but whingeing on about what kind of black shoes (unless very OTT black shoes, such as knee high leather boots etc) is stupid.

Certain colours and such, yeah. But dictating exactly which shoes is OTT.

My husbands daughters school has found a way to make sure that overpriced school uniform is bought instead of people getting it cheaper from tesco or whatever. Their 'school colours' are dark green tartan in a specific print. Because of this, it cost just over 200 quid for 2 sets of skirt, top, jumper and trousers. I am quite pissed off with uniform policies at the moment They are allowed any black shoes though..as long as the heel is under 3 inches if they have a heel.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I understand the need for uniform..but whingeing on about what kind of black shoes (unless very OTT black shoes, such as knee high leather boots etc) is stupid.

Certain colours and such, yeah. But dictating exactly which shoes is OTT.

My husbands daughters school has found a way to make sure that overpriced school uniform is bought instead of people getting it cheaper from tesco or whatever. Their 'school colours' are dark green tartan in a specific print. Because of this, it cost just over 200 quid for 2 sets of skirt, top, jumper and trousers. I am quite pissed off with uniform policies at the moment They are allowed any black shoes though..as long as the heel is under 3 inches if they have a heel.

crazy, mine have a uniform and tracksuit, just the top of the tracksuit in my daughters school is €60

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

crazy, mine have a uniform and tracksuit, just the top of the tracksuit in my daughters school is €60

We got 3 sets of Skyes for 20 quid. All from tesco as her uniform is grey trousers/skirt and white top. Black shoes. Red jumper. We did pay 20 quid for 2 of the schools jumpers as I think it looks better with the logo on those. But they didn't insist on it or anything so could have got two of those for a tenner or so too. Takes the piss when schools insist you get their own stupidly overpriced stuff..

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

We got 3 sets of Skyes for 20 quid. All from tesco as her uniform is grey trousers/skirt and white top. Black shoes. Red jumper. We did pay 20 quid for 2 of the schools jumpers as I think it looks better with the logo on those. But they didn't insist on it or anything so could have got two of those for a tenner or so too. Takes the piss when schools insist you get their own stupidly overpriced stuff..

It's ridiculous, I understand why schools want uniforms etc but not why they have to be so expensive. School is expensive enough as it is (free education.....)