[Withano]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

why do you think 8 months in jail is suitable?

A hate crime which caused no(?) physical damage to property or people but there was a clear intent of emotional abuse and racial hatred. 8 months seems appropriate in this case to me.

Do you disagree with the penalty, I've not read through the thread yet. Do you think the penalty should be more or less severe?

Edit: just seen most people think this sentence is too long. They broke laws lol, lawbreakers go to jail, its kinda how it works.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Withano

A hate crime which caused no(?) physical damage to property or people but there was a clear intent of emotional abuse and racial hatred. 8 months seems appropriate in this case to me.

Do you disagree with the penalty, I've not read through the thread yet. Do you think the penalty should be more or less severe?

Edit: just seen most people think this sentence is too long. They broke laws lol, lawbreakers go to jail, its kinda how it works.

not all lawbreakers go to jail

but then again some people get out after 7 months...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...s-fury-9185218

[Withano]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

not all lawbreakers go to jail

but then again some people get out after 7 months...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...s-fury-9185218

I mean, thats not the point though is it? Comparing any crime to a lenient sentence.. or a harsh sentence. Its not like me posting a link to a guy who got ten years for illegally downloading music will change perceptions on this news story, because its not remotely relevant.

A hate crime was commited and 8 months seems reasonable, comparing it to lenient or harsh sentences from the past shouldnt change the context.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Withano

A hate crime which caused no(?) physical damage to property or people but there was a clear intent of emotional abuse and racial hatred. 8 months seems appropriate in this case to me.

Do you disagree with the penalty, I've not read through the thread yet. Do you think the penalty should be more or less severe?

Edit: just seen most people think this sentence is too long. They broke laws lol, lawbreakers go to jail, its kinda how it works.

It would be nice if it applied to ALL lawbreakers though. The rabid muslim's who scream death and hatred on British streets seem to be pretty well immune to even a fine.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

It would be nice if it applied to ALL lawbreakers though. The rabid muslim's who scream death and hatred on British streets seem to be pretty well immune to even a fine.

I just think its odd to compare this sentence to harsh or lenient sentences from the past.. Take each crime for its own and 8 months seems appropriate.
comparing it to a guy who got away with murder or comparing it to a guy who got ten years for illegally downloading music is illogical.

[Kizzy]

Whatever happened to 'you come over here you abide by our laws?' ...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Whatever happened to 'you come over here you abide by our laws?' ...

that is the kind of term you use to abuse UKIP voters so not sure why you have plucked that one out?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

that is the kind of term you use to abuse UKIP voters so not sure why you have plucked that one out?

I abuse people?..... What on earth makes you say that?!

:

Just highlighting the double standard here is all.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I abuse people?..... What on earth makes you say that?!

:

Just highlighting the double standard here is all.

what double standards?

people think its a bit harsh but noone is saying that we should ignore the sentence

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what double standards?

people think its a bit harsh but noone is saying that we should ignore the sentence

Have they to abide by our laws or face the consequences or not?

[Kyle]

You do not insult the supreme religion and get away with it you white devils.

[Kizzy]

No not all lawbreakers go to jail,

The deputy leader of Britain First has been found guilty of religiously aggravated harassment afer she hurled abuse at a Muslim woman wearing a hijab.

Jayda Fransen, 30, was fined nearly £2,000 for wearing a political uniform and shouting at Sumayyah Sharpe during a "Christian patrol" of Bury Park in Luton, on Saturday 23 January.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7395711.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No not all lawbreakers go to jail,

The deputy leader of Britain First has been found guilty of religiously aggravated harassment afer she hurled abuse at a Muslim woman wearing a hijab.

Jayda Fransen, 30, was fined nearly £2,000 for wearing a political uniform and shouting at Sumayyah Sharpe during a "Christian patrol" of Bury Park in Luton, on Saturday 23 January.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7395711.html

no thank goodness and the jails can be kept for actual criminals who pose a danger to society

[Cherie]

What happened to the man who racially abused staff in MacciecDs, he got a kicking did he get 8 months as well, our prisons would be even more heaving if everyone who abused someone went to jail

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No not all lawbreakers go to jail,

The deputy leader of Britain First has been found guilty of religiously aggravated harassment afer she hurled abuse at a Muslim woman wearing a hijab.

Jayda Fransen, 30, was fined nearly £2,000 for wearing a political uniform and shouting at Sumayyah Sharpe during a "Christian patrol" of Bury Park in Luton, on Saturday 23 January.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7395711.html

Yet the muslim male who spat at a journalist and said 'you don't belong here' in a West yorkshire town didn't even get a slap on the wrist!!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

Yet the muslim male who spat at a journalist and said 'you don't belong here' in a West yorkshire town didn't even get a slap on the wrist!!

well said

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

Yet the muslim male who spat at a journalist and said 'you don't belong here' in a West yorkshire town didn't even get a slap on the wrist!!

Well he should have, spitting is an assault.

[Jessica.]

They obviously did more than calmly throwing rashers of bacon though. Can't believe people are glorifying this act, they just wanted to cause trouble after they had been binge drinking. It's nice that you're all so proud of your countrymen.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

They obviously did more than calmly throwing rashers of bacon though. Can't believe people are glorifying this act, they just wanted to cause trouble after they had been binge drinking. It's nice that you're all so proud of your countrymen.

Our countrymen?

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Our countrymen?

Yeah. Fellow men in the good ol' United Kingdom.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Yeah. Fellow men in the good ol' United Kingdom.

they are both polish economic migrants?

(but tbh they could have been pissed up brits)

[Ammi]

...I know it's a serious thing but it did make me smile reading they were tracked down by the police finding empty bacon packets in their possession...yeah the sentencing seems very harsh and feels like a 'making example of sentencing' possibly...lots of Polish people have also been subjected to 'hate' and prejudice so it's sad that the same has been done by a few to others who have also been subjected to the same thing../that there wasn't more of an understanding rather than an intolerance...a community service type sentencing would have been more the thing as well...a harsh sentencing will only I think instil more negative feelings...well it has already if they've been attacked by Muslims in prison...

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

They obviously did more than calmly throwing rashers of bacon though. Can't believe people are glorifying this act, they just wanted to cause trouble after they had been binge drinking. It's nice that you're all so proud of your countrymen.

I don't see anyone saying they should not have been convicted of a crime... they are hardly glorifying the act

[Shaun]

bloody poles. coming over here, stealing all our spaces in jail

(serious response: this is obviously stupid and a waste of taxpayer's money)

[Northern Monkey]

I bet they were shocked when the pigs turned up.I wonder if they put them in the back of a meat van when they arrested them....