[Cherie]

Originally Posted by HBIC

Apparently some people get so engrossed in the show that they make up storylines as they go along

oh another one, watch the last 10 minutes of tonights highlights

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Nothing like making assumptions about something that we haven't seen or even know if it happened.

Courtney referred to the discussions they had in tonights highlights right at then end when Wayne asked Courtney if they could just enjoy their last few days, I guess you aren't watching? or you have short term memory loss

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Courtney referred to the discussions they had in tonights highlights right at then end when Wayne asked Courtney if they could just enjoy their last few days, I guess you aren't watching? or you have short term memory loss

And you took that and made up a discussion that we didn't see and didn't know it happened where Ann apparently wiped the floor with him in a reasoned manner.

So, which show did you watch or were you hallucinating?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It was all going so well, and then he had to get on his soapbox, I wonder why we haven't seen any discussions which have taken place between Ann and Shane J, did she wipe the floor with him in a reasoned manner per chance

Some something comment about you being there watching the editing take place something something.

As for the bolded point, this is an attitude that annoys me. 'Oh look at him, talking about issues that don't affect me ugh!'.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Some something comment about you being there watching the editing take place something something.

As for the bolded point, this is an attitude that annoys me. 'Oh look at him, talking about issues that don't affect me ugh!'.

something something Courtney said it in tonight's hightlights are any of you actually watching something something

how do you know the issues don't affect me?

[HBIC]

Originally Posted by Cherie

something something Courtney said it in tonight's hightlights are any of you actually watching something something

how do you know the issues don't affect me?

Courtney never said Ann wiped the floor with her, it’s pure conjecture

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Some something comment about you being there watching the editing take place something something.

As for the bolded point, this is an attitude that annoys me. 'Oh look at him, talking about issues that don't affect me ugh!'.

They dont effect shane either.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by T*

It says be who the **** you want to be and don’t let any disgruntled old dear or any bigoted youth for that matter stop you

Totally right.
Very well and directly put too.

[MB.]

Have a google of Jamie: Drag Queen at 16, you might find it useful

[Ammi]

...I don’t see how ShaneJ’s words with Wayne last night would be described as getting on his soapbox as if they were a negative in his character...he was just saying...it’s ok for you and I in our lives, Wayne but for many others it isn’t, and especially referring to younger people who are finding a struggle with being accepted...that’s a positive in his character that he thinks of others surely, rather than just think well I’m alright Jack, my life is great with my sexuality...I do understand that the housemates want to have a fun time as well to balance out their stay in the house and not always have more serious conversations etc...but then with Shane J it feels to me, that if he’s more serious in engaging discussions, it’s often met with disapproval and oh no, not again, why can’t you just have fun and be lighter...but then when he was lighter and more flirtatious and frivolous etc with Andrew ..the most ‘fun’ Shane, Ann showed such disapproval for that as well...so what’s a poor drag queen to do because whichever old way, it’s not really being approved of...anyway I liked his words with Wayne, they showed someone who looks beyond themselves and affects on their own life....I don’t know why we haven’t seen more of the discussions in a year that was meant to more go back to old time BB, when these conversations and interesting discussions were so much a part of it....

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I don’t see how ShaneJ’s words with Wayne last night would be described as getting on his soapbox as if they were a negative in his character...he was just saying...it’s ok for you and I in our lives, Wayne but for many others it isn’t, and especially referring to younger people who are finding a struggle with being accepted...that’s a positive in his character that he thinks of others surely, rather than just think well I’m alright Jack, my life is great with my sexuality...I do understand that the housemates want to have a fun time as well to balance out their stay in the house and not always have more serious conversations etc...but then with Shane J it feels to me, that if he’s more serious in engaging discussions, it’s often met with disapproval and oh no, not again, why can’t you just have fun and be lighter...but then when he was lighter and more flirtatious and frivolous etc with Andrew ..the most ‘fun’ Shane, Ann showed such disapproval for that as well...so what’s a poor drag queen to do because whichever old way, it’s not really being approved of...anyway I liked his words with Wayne, they showed someone who looks beyond themselves and affects on their own life....I don’t know why we haven’t seen more of the discussions in a year that was meant to more go back to old time BB, when these conversations and interesting discussions were so much a part of it....

One of the most inspirational posts I've ever read in here.

This is something I have liked as to Shane J,from the start.

His looking out for and with others.
I found this talk interesting and just about all his points valid.

Also as you state,his more fun times get derided too.
I just warmed even more towards him last night on the highlights in that chat with Wayne.
For me it just wasn't long enough.

I really see little to genuinely criticise Shane J for in this series.
For me,as with some of the others too,one of the best things about this series,has been being able to learn more as to Shane J.

Your posts on this Ammi, are both a tonic and so refreshing to come across.
I for one,thank you for them.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

One of the most inspirational posts I've ever read in here.

This is somethingbI have liked as to Shane J,from the start.

His looking out for and with others.
I found this talk interesting and just about all his points valid.

Also as you state,his more fun times get derided too.
I just warmed even more towards him last night on the highlights in that chat with Wayne.
For me it just wasn't long enough.

I really see little to genuinely criticise Shane J for in this series.
For me,as with some of the others too,one of the best things about this series,has been being able to learn more as to Shane J.

Your posts on this Ammi, are both a tonic and so refreshing to come across.
I for one,thank you for them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Alf

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Alf

There's nothing funny about even just in part bigotry and prejudice towards others Alf.
Certainly not to me and thankfully it seems to others on here too.

[luvjustin]

This place is getting worse by the day. It’s distressing to think there are people on the streets of Britain with such wackards ways of thinking.

How many years has it been since we had our first gay winner? Our first trans winner? You would think people might have got their head around it by now. But no. We are still getting post after post like this.. Thinly veiled hatred.

This is why Shane getting on his soap box once in a while is certainly still needed.

[HBIC]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

This place is getting worse by the day. It’s distressing to think there are people on the streets of Britain with such wackards ways of thinking.

How many years has it been since we had our first gay winner? Our first trans winner? You would think people might have got their head around it by now. But no. We are still getting post after post like this.. Thinly veiled hatred.

This is why Shane getting on his soap box once in a while is certainly still needed.

I have a feeling those housemates wouldn’t win if their series aired in 2018. The audience of this show has clearly changed.

[luvjustin]

Originally Posted by HBIC

I have a feeling those housemates wouldn’t win if their series aired in 2018. The audience of this show has clearly changed.

I think you’re right. Things seem to have gotten worse rather than better.

[Marches]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

I think you’re right. Things seem to have gotten worse rather than better.

Exactly. People want the vapid ken doll to win. I thought big brother was a judge of endurance and character, two things he lacks

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by HBIC

I have a feeling those housemates wouldn’t win if their series aired in 2018. The audience of this show has clearly changed.

I think you are right there.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

This place is getting worse by the day. It’s distressing to think there are people on the streets of Britain with such wackards ways of thinking.

How many years has it been since we had our first gay winner? Our first trans winner? You would think people might have got their head around it by now. But no. We are still getting post after post like this.. Thinly veiled hatred.

This is why Shane getting on his soap box once in a while is certainly still needed.

I couldn't agree more. It's unbelievable and very sad.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I couldn't agree more. It's unbelievable and very sad.

I understand why you think this but no one gets a free pass except that. awful Helen Wood.

Did not Julien Clary win?

The thing is for me, each housemate goes in as an individual and their journey in the house is down to their personality, popularity and behaviour during their stay.

Why would you want anyone's sexuality to be a defining reason for winning or that they only win because they are gay.

No, if they are good enough to get through to the final, forget sexual orientation, vote for your own favourite, then it will be fair.

[luvjustin]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I understand why you think this but no one gets a free pass except that. awful Helen Wood.

Did not Julien Clary win?

The thing is for me, each housemate goes in as an individual and their journey in the house is down to their personality, popularity and behaviour during their stay.

Why would you want anyone's sexuality to be a defining reason for winning or that they only win because they are gay.

No, if they are good enough to get through to the final, forget sexual orientation, vote for your own favourite, then it will be fair.

Nobody is saying people should win because they are gay.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I understand why you think this but no one gets a free pass except that. awful Helen Wood.

Did not Julien Clary win?

The thing is for me, each housemate goes in as an individual and their journey in the house is down to their personality, popularity and behaviour during their stay.

Why would you want anyone's sexuality to be a defining reason for winning or that they only win because they are gay.

No, if they are good enough to get through to the final, forget sexual orientation, vote for your own favourite, then it will be fair.

I don't think the defining reason for anyone winning should be their sexuality. I just don't understand the hatred that seems to be directed at a housemate who is gay. It seems extreme to me, and not something I would expect in this day and age.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I don't think the defining reason for anyone winning should be their sexuality. I just don't understand the hatred that seems to be directed at a housemate who is gay. It seems extreme to me, and not something I would expect in this day and age.

I don't hate him, I like him a lot of the time, they were having a nice time, second last night, Wayne asked him to give it a rest, it isn't anything we haven't heard before, It looked like even lWayne had enough, if he thinks a 14 year old boy is going to listen to Ann Widdicome he is pretty deluded

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I don't think the defining reason for anyone winning should be their sexuality. I just don't understand the hatred that seems to be directed at a housemate who is gay. It seems extreme to me, and not something I would expect in this day and age.

Can't it be the same reason people don't like any housemate

I didn't like Helen Wood or Bear or a lot of others

I took against Shane for his entrance and for his banging on and on about the same issues. Recently his going round the housemates didn't endear me to him either.

I also felt the same about India

I detest Andrew and never liked him from day1,

Didn't like Dapper again because in my opinion he was crude

None of my dislike for Shane was because he was gay. I disliked him as a person who happened to be Gay. His being gay was neither here nor there but his behaviour in the house was the contributing factor as to why I disliked him.

I dare say there are people dislike him for being gay, but he should not get away with his behaviour in the house by just being gay either.

I just wish people could forget their sexuality and just treat people as people.