[lewys]

if helen wood / katie hopkins was up against hardeep they would have stayed. period. but the tea is they were more vile than our nat !

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by lewys

if helen wood / katie hopkins was up against hardeep they would have stayed. period. but the tea is they were more vile than our nat !

Because they are a lot nicer people than Natalie

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Because they are a lot nicer people than Natalie

Helen is a monster no redeeming qualities at all.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Helen is a monster no redeeming qualities at all.

But the GBP who voted her as Queen on CBB dont agree with you

[Alf]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Helen is a monster no redeeming qualities at all.

You only call her a monster because she's White.

This identity politics game works both ways.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

But the GBP who voted her as Queen on CBB don't agree with you

ok and is that supposed to change my mind on her?

Originally Posted by Alf

You only call her a monster because she's White.

This identity politics game works both ways.

most of my profile faves are white so how about you shut up because clearly you have no idea what you're talking about x

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Because they are a lot nicer people than Natalie

i have to LAUGH at this

[VanessaFeltz.]

Also Tiffany New York Polard lost against a cheater and 2 bores..

[Elliot]

Lmao we live in a world where Natalie can be the first evictee and Helen can win a series scream

[poppsywoppsy]

Harking back to Emma and Rylans interviews with Natalie, it was very evident she does not listen to what others are saying and asking her.

When having her own bad behaviour shown to her, she turns it around on others pointing out their faults therefore negating hers. Or she just ignores it and carries on regardless, pointing out no one apologizes to her. Why would they after the onslaughts she threw their way.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Harking back to Emma and Rylans interviews with Natalie, it was very evident she does not listen to what others are saying and asking her.

When having her own bad behaviour shown to her, she turns it around on others pointing out their faults therefore negating hers. Or she just ignores it and carries on regardless, pointing out no one apologizes to her. Why would they after the onslaughts she threw their way.

I noticed that with Emmas interview

[armand.kay]

I've literally got two white women in my sig so clearly race is not a problem with me. Just because I speak on race doesn't make me anti white stupid.

[Ammi]

...they’re all negative housemates though in that they’ve all been chosen for their negative storms which go beyond controversial housemates as some have been in the past...so it can’t be said that the public no longer likes negativity if this series is getting similar size viewers and voters as in the past etc...it really depends on an individual viewer and voter etc as to which type of negativity they find more acceptable or less unacceptable in nature of the storms they all have..?...some of those storms for me are quite difficult to get beyond to see any other parts in their character because of the grim nature...and there seems a lot of reluctance in talking about them so that makes it harder to get on board with any...Natalie was trying to rattle those storms to the surface in the early days and for me that was a positive..?...sadly that wasn’t to be, most of them voted for her because they wanted to hide in their corners and create ‘their own stories’....she was for me a real positive in the house with the theme this year and the characters who have been out in there...

[y.winter]

Yet, we're happy to open polls on which out of three housemates is the best, and not address the fact that they were not randomly chosen, but also share the same skin colour.

Maybe people automatically go against housemates because they're black and female, but there's a big enough crowd that automatically like them based on that same assumption. I've seen it work both way.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by y.winter

Yet, we're happy to open polls on which out of three housemates is the best, and not address the fact that they were not randomly chosen, but also share the same skin colour.

Maybe people automatically go against housemates because they're black and female, but there's a big enough crowd that automatically like them based on that same assumption. I've seen it work both way.

Perfectly said. It's a constant clash between people who dislike them by default, and people who like them by default.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by y.winter

Yet, we're happy to open polls on which out of three housemates is the best, and not address the fact that they were not randomly chosen, but also share the same skin colour.

Maybe people automatically go against housemates because they're black and female, but there's a big enough crowd that automatically like them based on that same assumption. I've seen it work both way.

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Perfectly said. It's a constant clash between people who dislike them by default, and people who like them by default.

Have you not considered the fact that the last few black females on CBB were from similar reality tv backgrounds so will all get similar fans? Also surely we should be more concerned about the people who automatically dislike them because while both are problematic (and I have spoke in the past about how turning black women into these sassy caricature is damaging even when it's being admired) the fact that black women are automatically at a disadvantage is more concerning to me.

[reece(:]

There's no like by default, I've been a Natalie fan since 2012

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by reece(:

There's no like by default, I've been a Natalie fan since 2012

The BGC thread is one more active ones in the reality tv forum despite the show being cancelled and people are really putting her popularity on here down to her being black and American. LOL

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by reece(:

There's no like by default, I've been a Natalie fan since 2012

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Have you not considered the fact that the last few black females on CBB were from similar reality tv backgrounds so will all get similar fans? Also surely we should be more concerned about the people who automatically dislike them because while both are problematic (and I have spoke in the past about how turning black women into these sassy caricature is damaging even when it's being admired) the fact that black women are automatically at a disadvantage is more concerning to me.

That's the exact reason why I'm saying it's an issue. I'm not saying disliking females based on ethnicity isn't, and of course, it's a much bigger issue than the former. Nevertheless both are damaging to black women, whether you're turning them into a "meme" without intent but out of admiration or into a figure that we should be ashamed of. One is much more wrong than the other but both are still wrong.

Originally Posted by reece(:

There's no like by default, I've been a Natalie fan since 2012

That's fair enough. To people on both sides, if you don't believe mine or Winter's comments concern you then they probably don't.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by reece(:

There's no like by default, I've been a Natalie fan since 2012

oh please, remember when Suki and Imran were faves for some before they entered the house, I wonder why that was

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Cherie

oh please, remember when Suki and Imran were faves for some before they entered the house, I wonder why that was

And sukhi was great so..???

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Elliot

And sukhi was great so..???

she might have been if she hadn't walked

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Cherie

she might have been if she hadn't walked

Literally go on any bb18 compilation vid or Facebook thread 50% of the top comments are ‘damn I wish sukhi wouldn’t have walked she was fantastic’

[reece(:]

The sweeping generalisations on here get more ridiculous by the series.