[Niamh.]

I think Asylum seeking has been a "thing" for a very long time TS yes.

You saying it's a sports regulatory issue is passing the buck somewhat, wouldn't trans people have a case to sue sports authorities for example if Self IDing was legal but the sports regulators said no? I think so.

What would be the point in legalising Self Id at all if individual organisations could just over rule the law?

[Alf]

This guy sounds like a pervert to me.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Alf

This guy sounds like a pervert to me.

yes, he clearly is, the worrying issue is that he is able to exploit the imbalance in existing systems to perpetuate his behaviour and be protected by those systems at the same time. The fact that a section of the population has that much power over others should be worrying to everyone

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

yes, he clearly is, the worrying issue is that he is able to exploit the imbalance in existing systems to perpetuate his behaviour and be protected by those systems at the same time. The fact that a section of the population has that much power over others should be worrying to everyone

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Alf

This guy sounds like a pervert to me.

This was my first thought..he didn't want treatment he wanted titillation.

[Tom4784]

I decided to google the story to see if I could find an article that covers the story without any bias towards or against transgenderism and I couldn't really find any articles. It seems like mainstream media hasn't really bothered with this story at all.

If the story is as it's reported then the person in question is indeed a predator and should be treated as such. They use the law to run their con and worse still, it seems like they might actually be a peadophile. It's kinda remarkable that this story hasn't been picked up by the media yet, with more spotlight the victims in this story might finally get their justice.

I do disagree with the headline of this article in particular though, while I agree with self ID'ing yourself as transgender shouldn't be something that can be enforced on others by law, I dislike how this article seems to use this pathetic excuse of a human being to **** on transgender rights as a whole.

[Ammi]

..i haven’t listened to it all yet but there’s a vid here of around 25 minutes of the human rights tribunal...Yaniv compared the business owner who had refused the wax to a neo nazi...


https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/event...roversy?full=1

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I decided to google the story to see if I could find an article that covers the story without any bias towards or against transgenderism and I couldn't really find any articles. It seems like mainstream media hasn't really bothered with this story at all.

If the story is as it's reported then the person in question is indeed a predator and should be treated as such. They use the law to run their con and worse still, it seems like they might actually be a peadophile. It's kinda remarkable that this story hasn't been picked up by the media yet, with more spotlight the victims in this story might finally get their justice.

I do disagree with the headline of this article in particular though, while I agree with self ID'ing yourself as transgender shouldn't be something that can be enforced on others by law, I dislike how this article seems to use this pathetic excuse of a human being to **** on transgender rights as a whole.

That's most of what I've been able to find, too; it's a case that's been picked up as a confirmation bias "poster child example" of something that was already being assumed to be a problem. A sort of "Aha! See! I *knew* it! Take that, nay-sayers!". Which frankly is exactly what happened on this thread too... on the first page, before anyone had said anything .

There also seems to be an issue of different reports about this individual not entirely matching up with each other, and a serious lack of overall information.

I think there's a real risk here of a case involving an extreme individual who would be doing **** like this regardless, being used as a realistic example of "what might happen" and honestly again I have to reiterate that the logic is absolutely no different to using an extremist attack to point at immigration and declare it problematic.

[Cherie]

Its so extreme that he would more likely be facing a charge now if he weren't calling himself a woman, rather than being entertained by people who are fearful of repercussions

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Its so extreme that he would more likely be facing a charge now if he weren't calling himself a woman, rather than being entertained by people who are fearful of repercussions

That's right. And I don't think ridiculing and belittling women's concerns, questioning her motives when she's already explained will do anything to make self-ID more acceptable. It feels like men controlling women.... still.

Has there been any trouble, any trouble at all I wonder, with women self-identifying is a man? Has a man been prosecuted because a self-identified female to male has taken anything a step too far. No.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Its so extreme that he would more likely be facing a charge now if he weren't calling himself a woman, rather than being entertained by people who are fearful of repercussions

Exactly this is the whole issue, people are not allowed to speak about it for fear of backlash, look at what happened to martina Navratilova when she voiced her opinion on Self Iding in sport

[Ammi]

...Ricky Gervais is speaking out about this individual ....and being labelled a transphobe by some for doing so...


https://kiwifarms.net/threads/ricky-...twitter.58756/

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...Ricky Gervais is speaking out about this individual ....and being labelled a transphobe by some for doing so...


https://kiwifarms.net/threads/ricky-...twitter.58756/

Here's a Twitter link to the Ricky Gervais comments (I don't know what Kiwi farm is either )

https://twitter.com/rickygervais/sta...80570755686400

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Here's a Twitter link to the Ricky Gervais comments (I don't know what Kiwi farm is either )

https://twitter.com/rickygervais/sta...80570755686400

...the thing is though which was the point of my post...*side-eyes TS and glares*.....Ricky Gervais is commenting on it and on the radio station, it said it had been covered in National Media...so it is becoming more talked about..?...

...I have to say though at the risk of being shouted at.....I am really disturbed by the content which involves female children which is very predatory...and the trans thing seems to be quashing that a little...

[Ammi]

...Ricky Gervais is speaking out about this individual ....


https://kiwifarms.net/threads/ricky-...twitter.58756/

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...Ricky Gervais is speaking out about this individual ....


https://kiwifarms.net/threads/ricky-...twitter.58756/

not KiwiFarms surely Ammi. Come on now.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

not KiwiFarms surely Ammi. Come on now.

...(...honestly I don’t know what kiwifarms is, I’m just trying to see what I can find that would expand some of this story a bit more.....)...you kiwifarm phobic, you...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I decided to google the story to see if I could find an article that covers the story without any bias towards or against transgenderism and I couldn't really find any articles. It seems like mainstream media hasn't really bothered with this story at all.

If the story is as it's reported then the person in question is indeed a predator and should be treated as such. They use the law to run their con and worse still, it seems like they might actually be a peadophile. It's kinda remarkable that this story hasn't been picked up by the media yet, with more spotlight the victims in this story might finally get their justice.

I do disagree with the headline of this article in particular though, while I agree with self ID'ing yourself as transgender shouldn't be something that can be enforced on others by law, I dislike how this article seems to use this pathetic excuse of a human being to **** on transgender rights as a whole.

If you watch the video at the end of the article it's an actual interview with yaniv, so maybe that might be helpful? It is worrying though as to why a story like this hasn't been picked up by mainstream media imo

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

If you watch the video at the end of the article it's an actual interview with yaniv, so maybe that might be helpful? It is worrying though as to why a story like this hasn't been picked up by mainstream media imo

Perhaps it hasn't been picked up because they know that it won't simply be taken as a story about a seriously messed up individual, but as "Gotcha" ammunition for a wider campaign, and there will be associated backlash. Though I suppose it's odd in the sense that the MSM isn't usually bothered about spoonfeeding people gunpowder.

[Ammi]

...I’m just listening to the interview now...it feels as though he chooses people who he knows will refuse for whatever reason...with the sole purpose of challenging them../...tribunals../...and settlements...

[Ammi]

...with some of those women, it involved going to a stranger’s home....and that’s something which he’s not considering or allowing for ...or even trying to reassure ...but there is a safety element as well...he just seems to be dismissing everything said as transphobia...and off to court we go...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Perhaps it hasn't been picked up because they know that it won't simply be taken as a story about a seriously messed up individual, but as "Gotcha" ammunition for a wider campaign, and there will be associated backlash. Though I suppose it's odd in the sense that the MSM isn't usually bothered about spoonfeeding people gunpowder.

Or maybe they're afraid of being sued themselves, I don't think newspapers are that concerned about anything other than cash tbh

[user104658]

"Kiwi Farms, formerly known as CWCki Forums, is an American Internet forum dedicated to the ongoing harassment and stalking of online figures and communities it deems "lolcows": the eccentric, artistic, or mentally ill.[3] The targets of threads are often subject to doxing, sealioning and other forms of organized group trolling, including real-life harassment by users"

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"Kiwi Farms, formerly known as CWCki Forums, is an American Internet forum dedicated to the ongoing harassment and stalking of online figures and communities it deems "lolcows": the eccentric, artistic, or mentally ill.[3] The targets of threads are often subject to doxing, sealioning and other forms of organized group trolling, including real-life harassment by users"

...oooops similar to the DM, then.....

[Kizzy]

I'd shave the guys balls for free, I have a nice rusty razor ready