[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You seem to think everyone white over 40 is a racist, that was the point YOU made about the thread, it’s not too much of a stretch to ask if you are racist yourself as your negative view of every white person seems to bear this out, you are happy enough to label people, I merely asked if you were

I haven’t broken any rules

Never said every older white person was racist so your rant misfired I'm afraid.

I simply put the idea of racism out there for discussion. Perfectly reasonable if the visitors fall disproportionately into one ethnic category. Something seems to be stopping non white visitors from coming.
What would that be in your opinion?
And no, I'm not racist

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Why do disabled people need to be catered for?

Seriously? I suggest you get someone to read your posts in future before posting such embarrassing guff.

I've already conceded that disabled people might need extra help, I don't have an issue with that as long as it doesn't hugely change the face of the Lakes.

I was obviously asking why BAME people apparently feel uncatered for there.

[Redway]

You still haven’t explained what a Malia crew is LT.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Redway

You still haven’t explained what a Malia crew is LT.

Because i don't have too. Get with it Redway ffs

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Redway

You still haven’t explained what a Malia crew is LT.

Wait, some people might need that explaining to them? Okay


Malia is a place is Greece. People who like hot weather and partying go there. People who choose to holiday there might not be interested in somewhere like the Lake District.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Never said every older white person was racist so your rant misfired I'm afraid.

I simply put the idea of racism out there for discussion. Perfectly reasonable if the visitors fall disproportionately into one ethnic category. Something seems to be stopping non white visitors from coming.
What would that be in your opinion?
And no, I'm not racist

Its advisable not to go hiking in a burka in the uk..:

LT's weather centre thread confirms that.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Wait, some people might need that explaining to them? Okay

Me when people ask how racism is an actual issue in 2019

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Ant.

Me when people ask how racism is an actual issue in 2019

Exactly. Well said.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Wait, some people might need that explaining to them? Okay


Malia is a place is Greece. People who like hot weather and partying go there. People who choose to holiday there might not be interested in somewhere like the Lake District.

It’s more funny how someone like you needs someone to explain what racism is and how it still exists in 2019.

We both know he didn’t bring up Malia in that sense. Why would he mention it in the context of diversity if that’s all he meant by it?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Redway

It’s more funny how someone like you needs someone to explain what racism is and how it still exists in 2019.

I've still not heard how racism is preventing people from going for a walk in the hills

We both know he didn’t bring up Malia in that sense. Why would he mention it in the context of diversity if that’s all he meant by it?

What he said was: good luck getting the Malia crew there or wheelchair users up the peaks

That wasn't relating to diversity. That was relating to Dezzy's comment about encouraging people to go to the Lakes when holidays abroad are so accessible.

[Redway]

I’d spin this out further but then I remember this is Oliver we’re talking about. Don’t know why I bothered replying in the first place.

[Redway]

At least LT isn’t so blatantly obnoxious in his baity replies.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Redway

I’d spin this out further but then I remember this is Oliver we’re talking about. Don’t know why I bothered replying in the first place.

Sorry for trying to help you understand what was written

[Redway]

Bye.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

In the OP one of the issues raised is that the lakes are heavily weighted towards the white middle class. Which is why I raised gentrification, this is the age group that are purchasing property but not actually living there. This causes shops to close that don't cater solely to tourists and that affects communities.
It's relevant to the conversation, if you don't think so thats fine.

Holiday homes being snapped up by out of towners happens everywhere, Cornwall, Devon, Wales, Norfolk...so why would it be an issue just in the LD

[jet]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I've still not heard how racism is preventing people from going for a walk in the hills

It isn't.
I know a Muslim family who holiday in the Lake District for a week every year. They must love being made to feel unwelcome.
Its utter nonsense.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Never said every older white person was racist so your rant misfired I'm afraid.

I simply put the idea of racism out there for discussion. Perfectly reasonable if the visitors fall disproportionately into one ethnic category. Something seems to be stopping non white visitors from coming.
What would that be in your opinion?
And no, I'm not racist

If you read the article...the LD is not attracting young people...it didn’t specify of what ethnicity so I expect all colours, as well as ethnic minority’s and those with disabilities, there are a myriad of reasons imo...cost, accessibility, not enough attractions other than hiking/walking, not enough advertising of what is on offer, few clubs, bars, shops, so very little to do with racism in my view but more to do with not being of interest to that audience

Your first thought is Racism, if they aren’t going there how would they know the locals were racist

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by jet

It isn't.
I know a Muslim family who holiday in the Lake District for a week every year. They must love being made to feel unwelcome.
Its utter nonsense.

Word!

I think when it comes to Lake District, it's literally just a case of (broadly) different hobbies and location, it's not something that even should be mentioned.

But I do somewhat agree that accessibility should be enhanced, and if there's a way to make it appeal to younger people to hopefully turn them into lifelong attendants without ruining the area's character, then go for it.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Thatchers youth... aging yuppies.
No they won't be racist at all

A typical leftie trait...labelling people and putting them in neat little categories. Narrow mindedness of the first order.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by jet

A typical leftie trait...labelling people and putting them in neat little categories. Narrow mindedness of the first order.

Yep. Awful

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Holiday homes being snapped up by out of towners happens everywhere, Cornwall, Devon, Wales, Norfolk...so why would it be an issue just in the LD

I didn't say it was, I mentioned robin hoods bay too.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I didn't say it was, I mentioned robin hoods bay too.

Second home owners contribute to ghost towns out of season, it has little to do with the tourism numbers

[jet]

Originally Posted by Redway

I’d spin this out further but then I remember this is Oliver we’re talking about. Don’t know why I bothered replying in the first place.

How rude.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by jet

How rude.

That’s nice.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Second home owners contribute to ghost towns out of season, it has little to do with the tourism numbers

How do they contribute out of season? They don't visit out of season.

The op mentioned the lack of diversity and the attraction of the middle aged I'm suggesting this is an example of that.