[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

visitor figures don't lie.

We could have said trains, shops, toilets etc were for able bodied people only in the past, it doesn't make it right.

If the lake district is not attracting a diverse group of visitors then it should be looked at. Why isn't it. As a tourist destination, the more diverse it's visitors, the more visitors it attracts and therefore the more money it generates. Seems like a no brainer to me.

Like I said, there's absolutely nothing stopping BAME people from taking a holiday there, so it's not something that needs to be "looked at".

As for accessibility, it's hilly countryside, not much can be done about that. Should they have miles of handrails?

[bots]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Like I said, there's absolutely nothing stopping BAME people from taking a holiday there, so it's not something that needs to be "looked at".

As for accessibility, it's hilly countryside, not much can be done about that. Should they have miles of handrails?

This is just such a wrong attitude. If people arent made to feel welcome, they wont come and as a public park that must be looked at and improved.

For a long, long time, I took no interest in whether things in life were accessible, then in my own field of business, I discovered how trivially easy it was to make things easy for those who faced challenges and the instant enormous benefit it brought to them. I believe we have a duty to put that right, and am now an active voice for it. I will tell you something else for nothing, I don't think anything I have done has been more rewarding either.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

This is just such a wrong attitude. If people arent made to feel welcome, they wont come and as a public park that must be looked at and improved.

For a long, long time, I took no interest in whether things in life were accessible, then in my own field of business, I discovered how trivially easy it was to make things easy for those who faced challenges and the instant enormous benefit it brought to them. I believe we have a duty to put that right, and am now an active voice for it. I will tell you something else for nothing, I don't think anything I have done has been more rewarding either.

How are people not being made to feel welcome?

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

How are people not being made to feel welcome?

Maybe it is hotbed of racism? all those old white people....

I dont know, just throwing it out there for debate

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Maybe it is hotbed of racism? all those old white people....

I dont know, just throwing it out there for debate

Have you ever been?

[Cherry Christmas]

You are white and old to a ten year old, are you racist?

[Cherry Christmas]

In answer to the question they probably could put in more accessible trails, not sure how you can encourage more young people or ethnicities as it’s personal choice what you do in your leisure time and some people just don’t like the countryside, or walking or fresh air, i guess they could do more in the way of advertising, never seen very much, but any time we have been it’s generally rammed especially Windermere

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You are white and old to a ten year old, are you racist?

The old people of today are the middle-aged of the nineties, to still perpetuate the myth of the "racist old people" is a bit disengenous.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You are white and old to a ten year old, are you racist?

Trust you to attack the poster not the post

The thread is about lake district not me. Follow the rules

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Maybe it is hotbed of racism? all those old white people....

I dont know, just throwing it out there for debate

Interesting theory, but I'd err on the side of "no". It's not a random little hamlet in the middle of bumblefuk nowhere. It's a popular tourist area,and people who live and work in places like that protect its reputation.

Maybe it's just something to do with all the open bodies of water

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Like I said, there's absolutely nothing stopping BAME people from taking a holiday there

There's no nuance with you is there?

Why am I picturing a gang of hooded kids with hammers and knives waiting outside for the poor lad being bullied telling him "we're not stopping you leaving the house. You can leave anytime!!".

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

There's no nuance with you is there?

Why am I picturing a gang of hooded kids with hammers and knives waiting outside for the poor lad being bullied telling him "we're not stopping you leaving the house. You can leave anytime!!".

That's a ridiculous comparison as the residents and business owners in the Lake District aren't hostile toward visitors.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

That's a ridiculous comparison as the residents and business owners in the Lake District aren't hostile toward visitors.

Erm... that's my point.

Your response was that "there's absolutely nothing stopping anyone from visiting" as though a crowd of rabid white folk with pitchforks physically keeping people out is the only possible way the OP could be correct.

Just as the point about disabled has got people laughing their arses off about wheelchairs up mountains. Completely missing the point.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Erm... that's my point.

Your response was that "there's absolutely nothing stopping anyone from visiting" as though a crowd of rabid white folk with pitchforks physically keeping people out is the only possible way the OP could be correct.

Just as the point about disabled has got people laughing their arses off about wheelchairs up mountains. Completely missing the point.

you talk about the place as if its butlins with a wall around it and a gate to get in. Have you actually been to the area for a holiday?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

you talk about the place as if its butlins with a wall around it and a gate to get in. Have you actually been to the area for a holiday?

Struggle with sarcasm daily do you?

My point is the exact opposite

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Struggle with sarcasm daily do you?

But anyone with the slightest common sense knows that.

not sure why you are being aggressive on a thread about the lake District?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Erm... that's my point.

Your response was that "there's absolutely nothing stopping anyone from visiting" as though a crowd of rabid white folk with pitchforks physically keeping people out is the only possible way the OP could be correct

well there is nothing stopping people from going unless you think I've missed something?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

well there is nothing stopping people from going unless you think I've missed something?

Who said they were being "stopped"?

There's a difference between being physically escorted out and not feeling welcome/catered for.

But anyone with the slightest common sense knows that.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Who said they were being "stopped"?

There's a difference between being physically escorted out and not feeling welcome/catered for.

But anyone with the slightest common sense knows that.

Why do they need to be catered for when it's a universal experience? What's missing for them?