[Liam-]

If she was skinny or conventionally attractive people would be on her side

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If she was skinny or conventionally attractive people would be on her side

That's weird logic

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's weird logic

Not really, people in general seem to have a very low tolerance for overweight people, if she was skinny and pretty and was saying dieting culture was toxic and her parents damaged her by pursuing that for her at a young age, guaranteed she would have a lot more sympathy and understanding, it’s the way society works these days.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Not really, people in general seem to have a very low tolerance for overweight people, if she was skinny and pretty and was saying dieting culture was toxic and her parents damaged her by pursuing that for her at a young age, guaranteed she would have a lot more sympathy and understanding, it’s the way society works these days.

That's very fuzzy logic Liam, it says more about your view than anyone's tbh. Imo whatever size she is if she's hurt she's hurt.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Not really, people in general seem to have a very low tolerance for overweight people, if she was skinny and pretty and was saying dieting culture was toxic and her parents damaged her by pursuing that for her at a young age, guaranteed she would have a lot more sympathy and understanding, it’s the way society works these days.

If she was skinny and pretty and women disagreed with her we'd be accused of being jealous, lose/lose

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If she was skinny or conventionally attractive people would be on her side

If she was skinny people might find it more believable she knew anything about diets

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If she was skinny or conventionally attractive people would be on her side

Funnily enough about two weeks ago there was a very attractive skinny woman being interviewed on This Morning claiming she wouldn’t hire an overweight person, I didn’t agree with her either

[Kizzy]

I'm sorry to say...I read the mail article. (I'm going to hell)

And yes I still think she's a fat whingy brat, sat there in a 500 quid frock purporting to be a body image activist.
Wearing pink latex with 'real' on it? Feeling proud she inspired someone to throw their scales away..

It's a fact , being overweight is a big risk to your health, it may not seem it at 22, you're young and supple, for now. Fast forward another 20yrs, now your joints ache you have early onset arthritis, diabetes and you're in daily pain that requires medication.

How about when bleating about the dangers of bad advice you take a listen to yourself Honey? Body confidence is one thing but advocating a size that may jeopardise your future health THAT is toxic.

I don't care what her parents said you watch in a few years when the realities of being overweight start to take their toll she'll do what EVERY other fat and proud celeb has done and lose weight!

Unfortunately it may not be as easy for some of those she's 'influenced' with her plus size instagram photoshoots spilling out of the latest must have outfit.

[Kizzy]

It just seems odd to me that someone complaining about being given bad advice is in turn offering out equally bad advice.

The advice and support she was offered by her parents didn't work for her, that's not really a reason to brand all diets toxic, A healthy diet plan can work for many.

[Marsh.]

Given her penchant for "speaking out" against her parents in the past to publicly disagree with something they've done or commented on I think she's attention seeking first and foremost. The easiest way to do that is to jump on dad's fame.

[user104658]

I just watched the clip and she doesn't even slam them. She says they "offered her solutions to a problem she brought to them; wanting to lose weight - and the solutions they offered were various diets".

She says it was in hindsight bad advice, which it is, but she isn'tsaying they should have known better or deliberately shamed her, just that, giving it thought, the advice could have been better. How is that "slamming them"? I don't get it, really. Plays into this idea that parents are supposed to be infallible and that her saying they gave out some bad advice means they were terrible or did something really wrong... when that's not even what she's doing. Not in the clip I saw, anyway. I'm sure I'll give my kids a tonne of pish advice as they grow up and I'll be happy enough for them to say so when they're adults .

I can only imagine that the idea that she's "slamming them" comes from the nonsensical and unhealthy idea that adult children should have some sort of reverence for their parents. Yawn.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I just watched the clip and she doesn't even slam them. She says they "offered her solutions to a problem she brought to them; wanting to lose weight - and the solutions they offered were various diets".

She says it was in hindsight bad advice, which it is, but she isn'tsaying they should have known better or deliberately shamed her, just that, giving it thought, the advice could have been better. How is that "slamming them"? I don't get it, really. Plays into this idea that parents are supposed to be infallible and that her saying they gave out some bad advice means they were terrible or did something really wrong... when that's not even what she's doing. Not in the clip I saw, anyway. I'm sure I'll give my kids a tonne of pish advice as they grow up and I'll be happy enough for them to say so when they're adults .

I can only imagine that the idea that she's "slamming them" comes from the nonsensical and unhealthy idea that adult children should have some sort of reverence for their parents. Yawn.

Same old tabloid fodder.

Anytime one celebrity disagrees with another on twitter it leads to a slew of "x SLAMMED by y" articles.

[Kizzy]

There is no expectation of reverence, respect maybe?

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but as you know even us parents don't possess it.

The use of language is important using words like toxic are designed specifically to make you feel they almost force fed her salad!

Whats the deal that diets don't work anyway? Many do diet and succeed?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Whats the deal that diets don't work anyway? Many do diet and succeed?

Depends what she means by it. If they were fad diets, then they are harmful and toxic or whether she means they simply tried helping her to change the quality and quantity of food she was consuming.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Depends what she means by it. If they were fad diets, then they are harmful and toxic or whether she means they simply tried helping her to change the quality and quantity of food she was consuming.

There was no explanation, just an umberella over 'diets'. Which again is bad advice, it's akin to saying 'don't attempt any change of diet, it won't work'! That's really negative.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

There was no explanation, just an umberella over 'diets'.

I know. I said "depends what she means".

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I know. I said "depends what she means".

Yes you did, I was just clarifying my point a bit better.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

There is no expectation of reverence, respect maybe?

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but as you know even us parents don't possess it.

The use of language is important using words like toxic are designed specifically to make you feel they almost force fed her salad!

Whats the deal that diets don't work anyway? Many do diet and succeed?

I don't see what's disrespectful about an adult stating they disagree with a parenting choice their parents made, unless there's an expectation of reverence. You can acknowledge that your parents were only human, that they were doing what they thought was best, that they had good intentions, whilst still commenting that a choice they made affected you badly. I don't see why a parent would have any problem with that, either, unless they find it "disrespectful" to be questioned by their offspring. I'm aware that many do feel that way of course.

Changing your diet permanently (if it's bad) works, a healthier lifestyle in general works... "temporary" diets tend not to work because they have an end date and more often than not, weight goes back on as soon as the dieting is finished. That can be "toxic" because reaching a goal weight only to wake up 6 months later as overweight as ever can be even more disheartening than not losing the weight in the first place.

The focus should always be cutting junk, cutting portion sizes if they're excessive, and a more active lifestyle... permanently. The reason a lot of people are overweight isn't even "bad food"... it's large portion sizes and sedentary lifestyle.