[Alf]

The theory of this photo is that it's Barack, Bill Gates and Michelle or as they claim, Big Mike. I'm not so sure, what say you? I definitely don't think that is Bill Gates, but I'm not 100% sure.

I just found this easily on twitter.

[Cherie]

tbh I don't know what the issue is here, even if she is trans it's her own business she is not impacting on anyone else's life

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Cherie

tbh I don't know what the issue is here, even if she is trans it's her own business she is not impacting on anyone else's life

When you're running to be the leader of the free World, isn't it best to be transparent with the people you're hoping will Elect you or is hiding the truth a good trait to have for that position?

There's a lot of religious people in America. Would Barack have been elected in 2008 had the truth been known? Would America have voted for their first lady to be a transsexual in 2008?

I'm not saying it is the truth, I'm just making a point to counter and question your point.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

When you're running to be the leader of the free World, isn't it best to be transparent with the people you're hoping will Elect you or is hiding the truth a good trait to have for that position?

There's a lot of religious people in America. Would Barack have been elected in 2008 had the truth been known? Would America have voted for their first lady to be a transsexual in 2008?

I'm not saying it is the truth, I'm just making a point to counter and question your point.

Its in the past though, it’s not like we can change it...its not really an issue for now is it?

[bots]

the only time it would be applicable would be if Obama were in some way hypocritical in his treatment of transsexuals during his time in office, which he wasn't and all we could say then would be ... what a hypocrite. I find it hilarious that people get sucked in to believing this **** and get all hot and bothered about it into the bargain

[Niamh.]

Don't be ****ing stupid, there are pictures of her and her family as a baby and as a young girl on line

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Don't be ****ing stupid, there are pictures of her and her family as a baby and as a young girl on line

Find them for us so we can have a look.

[Niamh.]

,....

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Alf]

They look pretty good. But how come those photos are online but no photos of her being pregnant? The reason I was given in this thread was because she was pregnant before the Internet, yet these photos would be even earlier.

Also, it's amazing what you can create these days and that goes for both sides of the debate.

I bet there's somebody out there that could take a picture of me from now and turn it into a child photo. And also turn me into a pensioner and make it look realistic.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Alf

They look pretty good. But how come those photos are online but no photos of her being pregnant? The reason I was given in this thread was because she was pregnant before the Internet, yet these photos would be even earlier.

Also, it's amazing what you can create these days and that goes for both sides of the debate.

I bet there's somebody out there that could take a picture of me from now and turn it into a child photo. And also turn me into a pensioner and make it look realistic.

So you've just proven with this post it doesn't matter what evidence you are given because you'll just dismiss it as possibly being fake anyway.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

So you've just proven with this post it doesn't matter what evidence you are given because you'll just dismiss it as possibly being fake anyway.

This

[Alf]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

This

Same question to your original post?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

So you've just proven with this post it doesn't matter what evidence you are given because you'll just dismiss it as possibly being fake anyway.

At what point have ai dismissed anything? I

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Alf

At what point have ai dismissed anything? I

Someone posted a photo of her as a young girl and your response was "it's amazing what you can create these days" is that not dismissive? Are we to assume you wouldn't just think the same thing about a photo of her pregnant?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Someone posted a photo of her as a young girl and your response was "it's amazing what you can create these days" is that not dismissive? Are we to assume you wouldn't just think the same thing about a photo of her pregnant?

Well, isn't it true that people can now do amazing things with pictures on the Internet, or was I lying.

Just because I ask questions and put a counter argument out there, doesn't mean it's my claim as a fact.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

They look pretty good. But how come those photos are online but no photos of her being pregnant? The reason I was given in this thread was because she was pregnant before the Internet, yet these photos would be even earlier.

Also, it's amazing what you can create these days and that goes for both sides of the debate.

I bet there's somebody out there that could take a picture of me from now and turn it into a child photo. And also turn me into a pensioner and make it look realistic.

I find this (along with the demands that she "should" post one to "prove something" to people) really quite unsettling ... why should any woman have to post pictures of themself pregnant on the internet to combat a conspiracy theory? . I'm pretty sure the Obamas couldn't care less about these theories.

I've just had a look at both me and my wife's old social media accounts and hey - - there are no pictures of her pregnant online either. There are loads from when she was younger, and many of her since the kids were born, but none pregnant. The reason? She didn't particularly like people taking pictures of her when she was pregnant.

Perhaps Michelle Obama doesn't like pictures of herself when she's visibly pregnant? Why on earth should she then have to "provide" those to slackjawed Joe Public to "prove" that she isn't secretly a man?

Utterly insane.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I find this (along with the demands that she "should" post one to "prove something" to people) really quite unsettling ... why should any woman have to post pictures of themself pregnant on the internet to combat a conspiracy theory? . I'm pretty sure the Obamas couldn't care less about these theories.

I've just had a look at both me and my wife's old social media accounts and hey - - there are no pictures of her pregnant online either. There are loads from when she was younger, and many of her since the kids were born, but none pregnant. The reason? She didn't particularly like people taking pictures of her when she was pregnant.

Perhaps Michelle Obama doesn't like pictures of herself when she's visibly pregnant? Why on earth should she then have to "provide" those to slackjawed Joe Public to "prove" that she isn't secretly a man?

Utterly insane.

I don't care what you find unsettling, thus isn't about you and your feelings.

And what's insane about asking questions and discussion?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

I don't care what you find unsettling, thus isn't about you and your feelings.

And what's insane about asking questions and discussion?

I mean this thread manages to be offensive to women, transwomen, gay people and anyone with half a brain all in one go which is either insane or impressive depending on how you look at it. Impressive if it’s just trolling. But I worry that it isn’t.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I mean this thread manages to be offensive to women, transwomen, gay people and anyone with half a brain all in one go which is either insane or impressive depending on how you look at it. Impressive if it’s just trolling. But I worry that it isn’t.

Most of the post you make towards me are offensive to me, but that's life.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I mean this thread manages to be offensive to women, transwomen, gay people and anyone with half a brain all in one go which is either insane or impressive depending on how you look at it. Impressive if it’s just trolling. But I worry that it isn’t.

He’s a trump supporter. Everyone should just ignore it

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I mean this thread manages to be offensive to women, transwomen, gay people and anyone with half a brain all in one go which is either insane or impressive depending on how you look at it. Impressive if it’s just trolling. But I worry that it isn’t.

Alot of the " oh she's a man " nonsense is rooted in sexism & misogyny , and they don't demand pregnancy photos of Melania Trump. So just shows this is also an attack on the left wing .

The obsession they have with Michelle Obama's gender is unhealthy.

[Niamh.]

So if its that easy to Doctor photos to prove she's female and someone did that, why wouldn't they also have made a picture of her pregnant, surely its easier to just add a bump then to go to all the trouble of making fake baby/child pictures

[Crimson Dynamo]

I beginning to wonder what other women are actually men

I have my suspicions about Michelle Visage and Barbra Bush (that name is fooling no-one Barb)

[Alf]

What I'm getting at is, some people are talking about this, just in the same way some people are talking about a TV show on Netflix or talking about Harry and Meghan.

What i find bizarre is how you can so easily talk about somethings about people who are in the spotlight but find it difficult to talk about others and you must try to shut that debate down by saying the person discussing it is somehow crazy.