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Old 05-05-2022, 10:25 AM #1
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It's worrying & disturbing for sure . I hope security gets thoroughly checked and strengthened for future events.
It's just further erosion of the ability to discuss and explore anything that's deemed "controversial" or a difficult conversation. The two places that it was historically possible to do a deep-dive on tough issues safely were in academia, and in comedy. It's already been stripped from academia over the last few years through threats and intimidation from the Group That Doesn't Exist... comedy was next on the list. Really it was only a matter of time.

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I was thinking of using this as my showdance..but will post it here instead.

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Note the difference in reactions.. these guys were restrained by force by many people for their actions. Will Smith got an award... End the cult of celebrity.
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Note the difference in reactions.. these guys were restrained by force by many people for their actions. Will Smith got an award... End the cult of celebrity.
Yeah, Will Smith not being thrown out (at the very least) straight away was bizarre
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Yeah, Will Smith not being thrown out (at the very least) straight away was bizarre
Of course, he was seen as untouchable and that's messed up. Where was security? They have a duty of care to everyone.
Is it any wonder that we are seeing others being attacked? If will got up and smacked somebody without consequence then others will want a go to air their grievances.
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Of course, he was seen as untouchable and that's messed up. Where was security? They have a duty of care to everyone.
Is it any wonder that we are seeing others being attacked? If will got up and smacked somebody without consequence then others will want a go to air their grievances.

On the Edge of the stage
held back by the Producers,
as it got, the Show talked about
across the World.

A new thing for them.
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Held back? There should have been no time to be held back... this was not a publicity stunt it was an assault.
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Note the difference in reactions.. these guys were restrained by force by many people for their actions. Will Smith got an award... End the cult of celebrity.
Celebrity itself is fine, as long as it's a "celebration of talent" and giving recognition to people who deserve it.

End the cult of Hollywood. Circle-jerk events like the Oscars are just the tip of it.
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Note the difference in reactions.. these guys were restrained by force by many people for their actions. Will Smith got an award... End the cult of celebrity.
I agree with that, from both angles really. You'd obviously never see someone high-profile being jumped by security as severely as this. Security was rather heavy-handed with the Chappelle show, and ludicrously absent with Smith/Rock. Of course as it's not an "open to the public" event they type of security at the Oscars will be different (they're expecting external threats trying to get IN, not the celebs themselves booting off) so I think him getting on the stage and managing to hit Rock is understandable... no one knew wtf was happening. BUT... the response afterwards was a joke. Once it had happened, he should have been removed immediately, by force if necessary (as he apparently "refused").
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