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Slim having slept on this thread I in all honesty have to ask, can you really justify using tweets that concern the rape & torture of a child to make a petty point about what signatures are or aren't allowed on TiBB? As you said, there are (genuinely) a boatload of examples of unsavoury tweets from the account in question that you could have chosen and I'm struggling to get my head around using this one. The underlying subject matter is just too dark.
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Slim having slept on this thread I in all honesty have to ask, can you really justify using tweets that concern the rape & torture of a child to make a petty point about what signatures are or aren't allowed on TiBB? As you said, there are (genuinely) a boatload of examples of unsavoury tweets from the account in question that you could have chosen and I'm struggling to get my head around using this one. The underlying subject matter is just too dark.
I repeatedly pointed out the dark nature of the claim as you were busy trying to justify the link, so yeah, I'm good thanks for asking. If enough of you report it, it will be removed, so you guys aren't powerless.

It's absolutely nothing to do with acceptable signatures, either.
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I repeatedly pointed out the dark nature of the claim as you were busy trying to justify the link, so yeah, I'm good thanks for asking. If enough of you report it, it will be removed, so you guys aren't powerless.

It's absolutely nothing to do with acceptable signatures, either.
I explained the link, I specifically did not justify it. And if it's not about acceptable signatures then it's, somewhat ironically, just a petty dogwhistle.

I don't really care about that in all fairness, dogwhistling can be fun but this is over the line for me. If you're OK with leveraging a case involving the rape, torture and murder of a 10 year old girl to make a point about the unfair treatment of an adult man, I'll leave that to your own internal justification.

It's a bit too dystopian for me on a Saturday morning.

I wonder, did you bother to "deep dive" into the David Challenor/Aimee Knight situation at all? Or was that deemed unimportant because there was a tweet about poor H?

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I explained the link, I specifically did not justify it. And if it's not about acceptable signatures then it's, somewhat ironically, just a petty dogwhistle.

I don't really care about that in all fairness, dogwhistling can be fun but this is over the line for me. If you're OK with leveraging a case involving the rape, torture and murder of a 10 year old girl to make a point about the unfair treatment of an adult man, I'll leave that to your own internal justification.

It's a bit too dystopian for me on a Saturday morning.

I wonder, did you bother to "deep dive" into the David Challenor/Aimee Knight situation at all? Or was that deemed unimportant because there was a tweet about poor H?
I'll make this offer once - there is obviously something I've said over the last day or 2 that has irked you, If you want to discuss it in pm, I'm happy to do so to try and avoid what happened last time, but this is straight back on the path of pre-break TS, and I'm not interested tbh.
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I don't think it's a mystery nor that it should be complex to figure out. Since yesterday you've had the face of a child sex offender who raped a 10 year old staring out from the bottom of all of your posts, but it's not to make a point about child protection or even acknowledge it in any way, it's to make a point about twitter bigotry and the slander of an incredibly privileged adult white man. Actually it's worse than that - I think you chose it pointedly because Niamh questioned your last one on the grounds of it being defamatory, so you quickly chose this one in retort. So it's not even about H from steps, it's about you feeling personally wronged.

I have two daughters around the age of the girl who was assaulted by the man in your signature that you're using to "get at folks".

Yes it's irked me it's absolutely ****ing atrocious.

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I'll leave you to howl into the wind, as I've seen this movie before.

My one last comment, is that it's really poor to drag Niamh into it as an attempt to use her against me and as your shield to spout. Niamh and I have been friends for a long, long, long, long time, and Niamh will confirm that if ever i have to speak to a mod about forum business, I purposefully avoid going to her.


I genuinely couldn't care less about anything you have to say about me, so I'm good with the rest.
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I'll leave you to howl into the wind, as I've seen this movie before.

My one last comment, is that it's really poor to drag Niamh into it as an attempt to use her against me and as your shield to spout. Niamh and I have been friends for a long, long, long, long time, and Niamh will confirm that if ever i have to speak to a mod about forum business, I purposefully avoid going to her.


I genuinely couldn't care less about anything you have to say about me, so I'm good with the rest.
You have no counterpoint. I didn't drag anyone into it, you know why you chose this tweet specifically as a replacement signature as well as I do. Maybe you thought the defamation dogwhistle was more subtle than it was. I'll leave you to it, you already know the choice of signature you've made is grubby. It's about a child rapist. Take a look at yourself. And if you don't see it then I don't think there's much hope for you at all.

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I don't think it's a mystery nor that it should be complex to figure out. Since yesterday you've had the face of a child sex offender who raped a 10 year old staring out from the bottom of all of your posts, but it's not to make a point about child protection or even acknowledge it in any way, it's to make a point about twitter bigotry and the slander of an incredibly privileged adult white man. Actually it's worse than that - I think you chose it pointedly because Niamh questioned your last one on the grounds of it being defamatory, so you quickly chose this one in retort. So it's not even about H from steps, it's about you feeling personally wronged.

I have two daughters around the age of the girl who was assaulted by the man in your signature that you're using to "get at folks".

Yes it's irked me it's absolutely ****ing atrocious.
Great post, SB. Thinking of quoting it in my sig.
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As suggested, I've reported your signature.
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You have no counterpoint. I didn't drag anyone into it, you know why you chose this tweet specifically as a replacement signature as well as I do. Maybe you thought the defamation dogwhistle was more subtle than it was. I'll leave you to it, you already know the choice of signature you've made is grubby. It's about a child rapist. Take a look at yourself. And if you don't see it then I don't think there's much hope for you at all.
i don't need a counter point. You spent all of yesterday pretending there was a link, then you've woke up today pretending to be outraged. The posts are in the thread.

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As suggested, I've reported your signature.
Good job. That will probably be enough, but you may need one more (can't be sure) report to get it done, which shouldn't be too difficult.

Democracy in action - you love to see it.
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i don't need a counter point. You spent all of yesterday pretending there was a link, then you've woke up today pretending to be outraged. The posts are in the thread.
There is a link.

And - despite my better judgement - I am outraged, I just kept a better lid on it yesterday. I attempted to raise
the same point gently in the very first post I made in this thread, giving the benefit of the doubt that you didn't know anything about the case.

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I'd honestly steer well clear of this one or anything that looks vaguely like a defense of the TERFblocker list etc, personally. The stuff about the Challenors is very real, very disturbing, and... well... an exhibit A example of how laws and inclusion mechanisms designed to protect trans people have been exploited by criminals and paedophiles acting in bad faith.

I'm all but certain that it wasn't your intent to highlight the Challenors/TERFblocker.
You still don't but at this point it's because that's the choice you've made - you don't care / are not interested because it doesn't fit the picture you're trying to paint.

Like I said that's standard forum/social media but, again, in this case the underlying case at the root of it is several steps too far.

And that would be one thing if it was just a thread about the tweet. Which you could have done instead. But you chose to make it your signature. You chose to do that to dogwhistle your "good friend" Niamh, because why not? But the effect is that it's not confined to one thread that I could have ignored - the tweet was right there on your post in a completely unrelated thread that was the first one I opened, so I came back to this one to address it.

To be the most succinct and just answer the thread topic of "is this sig OK" the answer should and hopefully is just "no".

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Well it's reported now, so we'll see what happens. I Remember when I had a Saville avatar and no one cared
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As this thread lives rent free in my head it seems, I've just clocked what the point of the thread probably is. I still think it's the wrong leverage to have used.
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As this thread lives rent free in my head it seems, I've just clocked what the point of the thread probably is. I still think it's the wrong leverage to have used.
Yeah I agree it's tasteless,and non of us need to see the child sex offender face staring at us on here.
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Yeah I agree it's tasteless,and non of us need to see the child sex offender face staring at us on here.
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It's not the thread though is it? I'll make it really easy for you. I had a previous sig that was about Linehan, I replaced it with a different one about Linehan. No telepathy or mystic megification required.

Seriously dude, if this is the manufactured outrage hill you're prepared to die on, then that really is a shame. You don't have to like it or me, or agree with anything I say or do, but you seriously need to chill.

This is all you, yet again. I haven't baited you or anything, you've decided to make this whole load of bollocks up - again.

I actually want to thank you - after you left last time it gave me a different perspective on the forum, and how I may have also displayed the same behaviours towards others, that you were showing towards me - I don't get involved in any of that nonsense anymore, I just post my posts, keep it moving, and let everyone else post their own posts. But seriously, this is weirdly tiring, and.at some point you just need to move on.

This will be my last post in this thread. You've got at least 4 reports (probably) by now, so there is no more that needs to be said from my perspective. So have at it.
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It's not the thread though is it? I'll make it really easy for you. I had a previous sig that was about Linehan, I replaced it with a different one about Linehan. No telepathy or mystic megification required.
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Seriously dude, if this is the manufactured outrage hill you're prepared to die on, then that really is a shame. You don't have to like it or me, or agree with anything I say or do, but you seriously need to chill.
"You're irrational, your upset is unwarranted, you need to chill out, you should keep calm like me."

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This is all you, yet again. I haven't baited you or anything, you've decided to make this whole load of bollocks up - again.
"None of this has anything to do with me, it's all you, it's all in your head - as it always is. "

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I actually want to thank you - after you left last time it gave me a different perspective on the forum, and how I may have also displayed the same behaviours towards others, that you were showing towards me - I don't get involved in any of that nonsense anymore, I just post my posts, keep it moving, and let everyone else post their own posts. But seriously, this is weirdly tiring, and.at some point you just need to move on.
"If anything I should thank you, your crazy irrational ranting has allowed me to center myself and I can be happy about that. Again, I've done nothing, again, YOU need to calm down."

This is textbook. I've seen you do it to other people on here, I'm not going to not call it out when you're doing it here.

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It's not the thread though is it? I'll make it really easy for you. I had a previous sig that was about Linehan, I replaced it with a different one about Linehan. No telepathy or mystic megification required.

Seriously dude, if this is the manufactured outrage hill you're prepared to die on, then that really is a shame. You don't have to like it or me, or agree with anything I say or do, but you seriously need to chill.

This is all you, yet again. I haven't baited you or anything, you've decided to make this whole load of bollocks up - again.

I actually want to thank you - after you left last time it gave me a different perspective on the forum, and how I may have also displayed the same behaviours towards others, that you were showing towards me - I don't get involved in any of that nonsense anymore, I just post my posts, keep it moving, and let everyone else post their own posts. But seriously, this is weirdly tiring, and.at some point you just need to move on.

This will be my last post in this thread. You've got at least 4 reports (probably) by now, so there is no more that needs to be said from my perspective. So have at it.
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I also know what gaslighting is Slim.
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