[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Still waiting for these babies to be freed! I'm also glad I watched the documentary to get more accuracy. The raw footage of their testimonies in court is beyond heartbreaking. I grew up believing the media's portrayal of them that they were rich hungry kids that killed for money.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Still waiting for these babies to be freed! I'm also glad I watched the documentary to get more accuracy. The raw footage of their testimonies in court is beyond heartbreaking. I grew up believing the media's portrayal of them that they were rich hungry kids that killed for money.

There's a re-sentencing hearing set for Jan 30th so fingers crossed

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

There's a re-sentencing hearing set for Jan 30th so fingers crossed

Was postponed because of the Wildfires in LA, now due for the resentencing March 20th/21st

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...-nuys/3629392/

[Ammi]

Judge cuts Menendez brothers' sentences giving them chance of freedom…



A Los Angeles judge has reduced the sentence of Erik and Lyle Menendez, making them eligible for parole more than 30 years after they killed their parents in a Beverly Hills mansion.
Judge Michael Jesic resentenced the brothers on Tuesday, after hearing evidence from relatives and prison staff about their attempts to make amends while behind bars.
The district attorney had argued that they were not rehabilitated, but now the state parole board could order the brothers' release as early as next month.
The brothers have long argued that they killed Kitty and Jose Menendez out of self-defence after years of sexual abuse, in a high-profile case that prompted a Netflix show which renewed interest in the story.
After hearing that they had been resentenced to 50 years to life with the possibility of parole, the brothers delivered an emotional statement to the court.
They went through grim details of the brutal killings and their decision to reload their shotguns and keep shooting their parents at point-blank range in the living room of their home. The siblings were aged 18 and 21 at the time.
"I had to stop being selfish and immature to really understand what my parents went though in those last moments," Erik Menendez, 54, told the court.
He described the "shock, confusion and betrayal" they must have felt seeing their sons holding guns and opening fire.
When might the Menendez brothers be released?
Both apologised for their actions and talked about their hopes of working with sex abuse victims and helping those incarcerated if they were given a second chance outside prison.
The voice of Lyle Menendez, 57, cracked as he talked about the impact of his "unfathomable" actions on their relatives.
"I lied to you and forced you into a spotlight of public humiliation," he said to his family.
Los Angeles County District Attorney Nathan Hochman said the decision to resentence the pair was "monumental" and carried "significant implications for the families involved".
Much of the hearing centred on what the brothers have been doing in prison for the last 30 years.
Family members and those who worked with them in prison detailed the educational courses they completed and programmes they created to improve the lives of inmates, including a hospice initiative for the elderly and sick.
Judge Jesic called the brothers' work while in prison "remarkable", but noted that their 1996 sentences to life without parole were justified at the time.
He said that under the guidelines, they were eligible for resentencing, issuing his new sentence of 50 years to life. The brothers have been held in custody since 1990.
'A great day'
As the judge continued reading, the brothers smiled and waved to their attorneys and family members who crowded into the courtroom. Family members embraced with smiles.
"Today is a great day," defence lawyer Mark Geragos told reporters outside court. He said they were "one huge step closer to bringing the boys home".
Anamaria Baralt, the brothers' cousin who testified inside court earlier in the day, said their family was elated.
"It is a difficult process," she said of the parole hearing that awaits the brothers, but noted they will "eagerly step through those doors if it means we can have them home".


…full article…it’s still unclear of the length of the process if they were released on parole…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2e3xnx471wo

[Niamh.]

oh wow that's amazing news, I'm delighted for them. They've served so much time already, I hope they get Paroled soon

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

oh wow that's amazing news, I'm delighted for them. They've served so much time already, I hope they get Paroled soon

Really ?!

Didn’t they kill their own family in cold blood !??

I honest don’t know the details other than that

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Really ?!

Didn’t they kill their own family in cold blood !??

I honest don’t know the details other than that

Yes but their parents were abusive both sexually and mentally. They've served 35 years already so I think they've really paid the price now anyway

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes but their parents were abusive both sexually and mentally. They've served 35 years already so I think they've really paid the price now anyway

Mmmm … but if they are capable of such monstrosities why on earth risk releasing them …

After all this time festering behind bars who knows what they are capable of


The judge , jury and all the prosecution team maybe fair game - just for starters !!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Mmmm … but if they are capable of such monstrosities why on earth risk releasing them …

After all this time festering behind bars who knows what they are capable of


The judge , jury and all the prosecution team maybe fair game - just for starters !!

You said yourself you don't know anything about the case, maybe you should look into it before forming an opinion like that. I don't think they were "festering behind bars" by all accounts they've had positive and proactive times in prison

She stressed that Lyle and Erik Menendez have spent their decades in prison rehabilitating themselves, as well as helping other inmates.

"[Lyle] and his brother spent their whole adult lives trying to counsel other victims of sexual abuse and start programs at the prison," she said. "Even though they had no chance of parole, they really felt that the prison system could be improved."

Erik Menendez has provided hospice care to inmates, their attorney said, while for the last 20 years, Lyle Menendez's fellow inmates have elected him as their representative with the prison administration, Ynclan said.

"He's like a soft-spoken CEO who is very busy with multiple projects," Ynclan said of Lyle.

"He wants to talk about prison reform," Ynclan said. "He would talk to me about the college courses he was taking. ... I was really impressed that someone in their early 50s, in prison without any chance of parole ... would want to take calculus and statistics to continue bettering themselves."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/menendez-b...y?id=115221747

[Barry.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Mmmm … but if they are capable of such monstrosities why on earth risk releasing them …

After all this time festering behind bars who knows what they are capable of


The judge , jury and all the prosecution team maybe fair game - just for starters !!

Watch the Netflix show they did last year, it will give you details about the case

[Ammi]

…I absolutely understand that many mindsets are that Lyle and Erik should never be released and that a life sentence should mean a life sentence with no parole, I mean that’s obviously where the parole board stand as well …but those mindsets and those decisions are hopefully based on information and the balancing and weighing of that information…

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I absolutely understand that many mindsets are that Lyle and Erik should never be released and that a life sentence should mean a life sentence with no parole, I mean that’s obviously where the parole board stand as well …but those mindsets and those decisions are hopefully based on information and the balancing and weighing of that information…

They probably weren't able to prove that their parents were going to kill them first as they claimed.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

oh wow that's amazing news, I'm delighted for them. They've served so much time already, I hope they get Paroled soon

…yeah, I was joyed at seeing the article but then thought it might be misleading in that any release could still have to go through lots of procedures which could take many years but I really am wishing for their release very soon …

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…yeah, I was joyed at seeing the article but then thought it might be misleading in that any release could still have to go through lots of procedures which could take many years but I really am wishing for their release very soon …

It says they could be released within a month but that's probably best case scenario

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It says they could be released within a month but that's probably best case scenario

…it would be so amazing if they were…when we think of some of the lenient sentencing for some crimes and what the boys endured through their lives in terms of abuse, they’ve served enough time, I think…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it would be so amazing if they were…when we think of some of the lenient sentencing for some crimes and what the boys endured through their lives in terms of abuse, they’ve served enough time, I think…

Yeah, when you compare it to Molly and Tom Martens eh?

[Zizu]

Let’s just bookmark this conversation and come back to see how well their rehabilitation has progressed …

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Let’s just bookmark this conversation and come back to see how well their rehabilitation has progressed …

Sure

[Niamh.]

Thanks Ammi. Talking about what he did before what he's in there for was a bit harsh i think though, he was a teenager at the time

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Thanks Ammi. Talking about what he did before what he's in there for was a bit harsh i think though, he was a teenager at the time

…yeah, obviously we only know bits of what the media reports but it does feel to me that there was never any intention of granting him parole…so obviously reasons have to be recorded etc…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…yeah, obviously we only know bits of what the media reports but it does feel to me that there was never any intention of granting him parole…so obviously reasons have to be recorded etc…

Yeah and look i don't know what he's been up to in prison but I feel there was an undertone to that, that I don't like. Talking about pity parties and despite what his supporters believe etc

[Ammi]

…Lyle Menendez also denied bail…


‘parole commissioner Julie Garland commended him for his behavior in prison, including his lack of violence, his work on programs and his positive relationships with other inmates and staff. She also noted his strong support network and solid plans for a post-release life’

"You have been a model inmate in many ways who has demonstrated the potential for change," Garland told him at his first-ever parole hearing. "But despite all those outward positives, we see ... you still struggle with anti-social personality traits like deception, minimization and rule-breaking that lie beneath that positive surface."

Lyle Menendez's illegal possession of cellphones in prison was another point made by the commissioners.

Garland said "incarcerated people who break rules" are more likely to break rules in society.

"We do understand that you had very little hope of being released for years," Garland said, referring to his previous sentence of life without the possibility of parole.

[Niamh.]

Hhmmm

[thesheriff443]

Just my thoughts
If you are being sexually abused the normal route for people is to report it, not stand on the driveway and shoot your mother and father

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Just my thoughts
If you are being sexually abused the normal route for people is to report it, not stand on the driveway and shoot your mother and father

Of course but they've already served 30 years and there was extenuating circumstances.