[Beso]

Feminist picks on Muslim man.

[Crimson Dynamo]

and NO other housemate has ever mentioned Khaled save Ali

[Glenn.]

Let’s be real, Ali definitely had a point with him being false. The way he switched when he was chosen to be HoH was hilarious. Don’t act like you don’t want it after spending hours trying to win it.

He doesn’t like it that she’s worked him out and she’s messing his game up.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Let’s be real, Ali definitely had a point with him being false. The way he switched when he was chosen to be HoH was hilarious. Don’t act like you don’t want it after spending hours trying to win it.

He doesn’t like it that she’s worked him out and she’s messing his game up.

Did we watch the same show ?. The HOH is a poisonous chalice, the only good thing was that he got immunity. It clearly was difficult for him to be put in the position. And no matter what decision he made .... people like Ali would still come for him & belittle him. The mask has well and truly fallen off Ali's face , she's exposed...so now it's operation ' please feel sorry for me' ,by her threatening to leave . She's 38 ...and Khaled acts more mature than her ,and he's 23.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Did we watch the same show ?. The HOH is a poisonous chalice, the only good thing was that he got immunity. It clearly was difficult for him to be put in the position. And no matter what decision he made .... people like Ali would still come for him & belittle him. The mask has well and truly fallen off Ali's face , she's exposed...so now it's operation ' please feel sorry for me' ,by her threatening to leave . She's 38 ...and Khaled acts more mature than her ,and he's 23.

Spot on.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Did we watch the same show ?. The HOH is a poisonous chalice, the only good thing was that he got immunity. It clearly was difficult for him to be put in the position. And no matter what decision he made .... people like Ali would still come for him & belittle him. The mask has well and truly fallen off Ali's face , she's exposed...so now it's operation ' please feel sorry for me' ,by her threatening to leave . She's 38 ...and Khaled acts more mature than her ,and he's 23.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Did we watch the same show ?. The HOH is a poisonous chalice, the only good thing was that he got immunity. It clearly was difficult for him to be put in the position. And no matter what decision he made .... people like Ali would still come for him & belittle him. The mask has well and truly fallen off Ali's face , she's exposed...so now it's operation ' please feel sorry for me' ,by her threatening to leave . She's 38 ...and Khaled acts more mature than her ,and he's 23.

“ the ONLY good thing he won was immunity “


That is THE single most valuable prize ffs


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[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Zizu

“ the ONLY good thing he won was immunity “


That is THE single most valuable prize ffs


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Yes and at what COST! , like I said it's a awkward position BB put him in .

[bots]

it becomes chicken and egg very quickly and Khalid is very good at digging up previous interactions and using that as an excuse to be an ass as often as he wants. The guy is an ass

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by bots

it becomes chicken and egg very quickly and Khalid is very good at digging up previous interactions and using that as an excuse to be an ass as often as he wants. The guy is an ass

He is simultaneously too nice to be true and also an 'utter ass'.

That's quite a feat.

[Glenn.]

I wasn't even talking about nominations.

[Glenn.]

That was a load of crap too. He was talking about making it fair and not wanting to mess with the houses decision so put up Martha who I don’t think anyone even nominated.

Don’t put someone up then dismiss it like you’re trying to play fair when it’s not fair. Just own it.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

That was a load of crap too. He was talking about making it fair and not wanting to mess with the houses decision so put up Martha who I don’t think anyone even nominated.

Don’t put someone up then dismiss it like you’re trying to play fair when it’s not fair. Just own it.

Now you've missed out a lot if important information to make your point believable.

Such as, he took everyone who was up for eviction off the list, then everyone who spent all the time in storage, he then narrowed the ones who were left down to who he gets on with the best and took them off the list...unfortunately that was then left with Martha.

The only way kahled could be faulted as HOH, us if he had the option to pick neither option, which I've been informed was not an option.

I dont, and will never see how he can be slated for doing it the way he did.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Beso

Now you've missed out a lot if important information to make your point believable.

Such as, he took everyone who was up for eviction off the list, then everyone who spent all the time in storage, he then narrowed the ones who were left down to who he gets on with the best and took them off the list...unfortunately that was then left with Martha.

The only way kahled could be faulted as HOH, us if he had the option to pick neither option, which I've been informed was not an option.

I dont, and will never see how he can be slated for doing it the way he did.

Exactly

Imagine the uproar if he saved & replaced, Ali would have steam coming out her ears...as she still accuses him of " trying to get rid of a housemate" , i think he made the best choice out of a awkward position.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

That was a load of crap too. He was talking about making it fair and not wanting to mess with the houses decision so put up Martha who I don’t think anyone even nominated.

Don’t put someone up then dismiss it like you’re trying to play fair when it’s not fair. Just own it.

The truth is though, he was in a lose/lose situation, and neither of his options were good. He didn’t choose to put an extra housemate up for eviction - he was forced into doing it as part of a task. How can he play fair when the task he had been given to do was never going to be fair? Whoever he nominated was going to be upset, so he couldn’t win! He was put in an impossible position.

He clearly explained the very logical process he had gone through to show how he had come to his decision - there are 15 housemates, so after taking away those who were already nominated or immune, he was left with 11 to choose from. He wanted to avoid those who were up for eviction the previous week, so that removed another 3 housemates, leaving him with 8 to choose between. He chose to take into account those who had spent the most time in storage, so that probably eliminated another 3 or 4 housemates, leaving him 4 or 5 to choose from. He then wanted to save the people he was closest to, so let’s that was 3 or 4. After that he would only have been left with 1 or 2 people, and obviously Martha was amongst those last few. He wasn’t aware of the fact she’d had no nominations, as he was only informed of the 3 who were up for eviction.

The process showed he had been considerate and had tried to do it as fairly and logically as possible. He did then add he thought it was fair, but that came across as if he was referring to how he had come about his decision, rather than the fact that Martha was up for eviction.

If you feel he was so unfair, how would you have made the decision, what would have been your thought process, and what choice do you feel would have been fairer?

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

That was a load of crap too. He was talking about making it fair and not wanting to mess with the houses decision so put up Martha who I don’t think anyone even nominated.

Don’t put someone up then dismiss it like you’re trying to play fair when it’s not fair. Just own it.

He was caught in a tough position though. Regardless of which option he chose he would have had to put someone up.

I think he was trying to be as fair as possible (in a lose/lose situation). He probs could have handled it better by saying to Martha when she’s ready to talk they’ll have a private discussion as to why he chose her, instead of announcing it publicly but BB wanted a reason to be announced so he had to say it out loud to everyone.

[bots]

The reason he didn't do save and replace was because he was happy with who was already up. To suggest that he wouldn't have used it if there was someone there he wanted to save is ridiculous. It's a game, that they are all playing

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bots

The reason he didn't do save and replace was because he was happy with who was already up. To suggest that he wouldn't have used it if there was someone there he wanted to save is ridiculous. It's a game, that they are all playing

That's definitely true.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by bots

The reason he didn't do save and replace was because he was happy with who was already up. To suggest that he wouldn't have used it if there was someone there he wanted to save is ridiculous. It's a game, that they are all playing

Him and every housemate I agree ... it's a game after all, but it's got me thinking,If Izaaz was up for eviction ,he likely would have saved him and replaced him with someone else. But I'm glad that didn't happen,as it seems Izaaz is distancing himself from Khaled anyway, I think Isaaz is more bothered about staying on everyone's good side at the expense of losing his friendship with Khaled.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm not just saying this to be reactionary, it's just a few things that I have noticed about him over the last week, that makes me suspicious that he might have issues with women.

1. He accused Hanah of being aggressive just because she dared to express an opinion.

2. He clashed with Hanah over the shopping list.

3. He has clashed with Ali.

4. He has nominated Ali, Lily, and now Martha.

All of his arguments and nominations have been women.

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that Khaled is an evil monster that needs to be vanquished, but I do believe that he might have issues with women.

What do you guys think?

I don't know Mock.

I don't think we are possibly seeing the real Khalid or what he really thinks.
It's possible you're on to something.

It does seem to me, he thinks more about what will look good outside to expressing his real thoughts.

Plus it was always going to be another female he put up for eviction.
I THINK had Ali not been up, and one of the guys up.
He'd have chosen save and replace, saved the guy and understandably put Ali in his place.
Equally if she had been up but one of the guys instead of Daze or Lily.
He'd have still saved the guy and put another female up.

I just don't know what to make of him as I'm not sure we're seeing the real Khaled at all.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't know Mock.

I don't think we are possibly seeing the real Khalid or what he really thinks.
It's possible you're on to something.

It does seem to me, he thinks more about what will look good outside to expressing his real thoughts.

Plus it was always going to be another female he put up for eviction.
I THINK had Ali not been up, and one of the guys up.
He'd have chosen save and replace, saved the guy and understandably put Ali in his place.
Equally if she had been up but one of the guys instead of Daze or Lily.
He'd have still saved the guy and put another female up.

I just don't know what to make of him as I'm not sure we're seeing the real Khaled at all.

I understand your view tbh Joey.

And I agree with you that he definitely would've chosen save and replace if one of his bro's were up.

[Adamw92]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Of course I was generalising... I don't have time to specifically address every BB fan individually so I tend to generalise.

But, I did not say all... Pay attention to the words in bold...

"Look, some people are just nice. Khaled has explained clearly that he simply reflects back what he is given and the reason he has been nice is because people have been nice to him. The refusal to understand that could point to deeper issues.

I feel that some don't want to believe a person can be just be nice is because they don't feel that within themselves so they struggle to understand how others can."

Those words mean not all.

Look, 'people' are entitled to believe whatever you choose, ofc, no argument there. I was simply giving my opinion of the IMO likely motivation behind that stated belief.

If someone sees themselves in this then.. Well...

That’s fine, then. Just thought the wording of you saying Khaled defending himself and then saying people refusing to “understand” his reasoning was poor imo. It’s not about people not understanding, it’s about people not believing it’s genuine. Maybe he is genuine but I don’t think it comes across that way and I’ve been a fan of plenty of “nice” housemates over the years, it’s got nothing to do with me or any other member on here as people having “deeper issues”.

That comes across like you psychoanalysing people which is something plenty of people on here are bitching about Ali doing to Khaled and/or other housemates.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Adamw92

That’s fine, then. Just thought the wording of you saying Khaled defending himself and then saying people refusing to “understand” his reasoning was poor imo. It’s not about people not understanding, it’s about people not believing it’s genuine. Maybe he is genuine but I don’t think it comes across that way and I’ve been a fan of plenty of “nice” housemates over the years, it’s got nothing to do with me or any other member on here as people having “deeper issues”.

That comes across like you psychoanalysing people which is something plenty of people on here are bitching about Ali doing to Khaled and/or other housemates.

We all 'psychoanalyse' the HMs here daily. You have been around long enough to understand that. Or is it just a problem suddenly here?

You are literally doing it here though. By calling him a faker you are doing it.

As I said, I clearly said that my comment was not in regards to anyone on this forum. It's a huge BB world out there, there is no need to personalise my observations on the wider fandom. I didn't even know about you when I wrote it.

Gosh, this is hard work and I wonder what we are really achieving except sniping at each other.

Can we draw a line under it, or is there more to come?

[Adamw92]

Originally Posted by vesavius

We all 'psychoanalyze' the HMs here daily. You have been around long enough to understand that. Or is it just a problem suddenly here?

You are literally doing it here though. By calling him a faker you are doing it.

As I said, I didn't say my comment was not in regards to anyone on this forum. It's a huge BB world out there, there is no need to personalise my observations on the wider fandom. I didn't even know about you when I wrote it.

Gosh, this is hard work and I wonder what we are really achieving except sniping at each other.

Can we draw a line under it, or is there more to come?

I’m not pretending that I’m not psychoanalysing him though?? We absolutely can draw a line under it cause we’re never going to agree on this subject and that’s fine, I’m not going to hold it against you that you have a different opinion, I just wanted to voice my opinion just as you did.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Adamw92

I’m not pretending that I’m not psychoanalysing him though?? We absolutely can draw a line under it cause we’re never going to agree on this subject and that’s fine, I’m not going to hold it against you that you have a different opinion, I just wanted to voice my opinion just as you did.

Nor am I. Nor is anyone.

Good. Moving on.